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Old 05-13-2016, 04:07 PM
 
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I really do not understand what the level of melanin in a person's skin has to do with the answering of this question.

People of principle will not vote for either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, and people who do vote for either of these two are clearly not principled people. That is true regardless of what your political leanings are, or what color your skin is.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:15 PM
 
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I really do not understand what the level of melanin in a person's skin has to do with the answering of this question.

People of principle will not vote for either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump, and people who do vote for either of these two are clearly not principled people. That is true regardless of what your political leanings are, or what color your skin is.
It was really a question from a black person aimed at black person's...but of course everyone is free to participate in the conversation. Most black people can relate to the question.....if you cannot...then you have not been around very many blacks.
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Old 05-13-2016, 05:22 PM
 
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It was really a question from a black person aimed at black person's...but of course everyone is free to participate in the conversation. Most black people can relate to the question.....if you cannot...then you have not been around very many blacks.
A question aimed at black racists, you mean.
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Old 05-13-2016, 06:01 PM
 
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A question aimed at black racists, you mean.
Whatever floats your boat or normalizes your racism. Feel free to make yourself feel better about yourself.
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Old 05-13-2016, 06:07 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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In a libertarian society...there still is rule of law. We're not talking anarchy here - just reduced government and a more focused government.
In a libertarian society discrimination is legal, there for refusal of service is legal. My argument isnt that there are no laws, it is that the laws are different to a point that they are not recognizable to the society we live in.
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Old 05-14-2016, 12:11 PM
 
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In a libertarian society discrimination is legal, there for refusal of service is legal. My argument isnt that there are no laws, it is that the laws are different to a point that they are not recognizable to the society we live in.
Any society where discrimination is legal, that is a scary society to live in. All I have to do is look to the period before the 1960s.
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:38 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Well first you need to think about what ends unemployment in the first place? Well it's simple, it is someone hiring you. And you can't expect more established businesses to hire you, so if the establishment doesn't let you in, you either fight for the establishment to let you in (which will be done begrudgingly), or you create your own establishment. you create your own economic base, and you create your own wealth.


Now today, what will happen if you're a black man and try to start a business? Well more than likely the bank will deny you a loan, because you're black, and they have statistics stating that it is risky to invest in any black enterprise. Now don't get me wrong, a FEW break through, but the system is working against you in all cases. So either you try to lobby to get the banks to loan to you more, or you create your own bank.



For those begging for acceptance, well the Libertarian party won't help you. But for people trying to put power back into their own hands, then the Libertarian party offers many great solutions that will help minorities, especially blacks.

Now back to the bank thing, if you tried to start a bank, what will happen? Well the FED will step in and say you can't be a bank. Now they have the complex and convoluted laws stating why you can't be a bank, but when it comes to establishing a bank they create all sorts of barriers. And on top of that they make it very expensive.

This is why Libertarians are all about abolishing the FED. And most Libertarians support getting rid of the US Dollar and moving to a gold standard. As well as other forms of currency like bitcoins.


See the government dosn't control gold supply, and it doesn't control bitcoins. So if you wanted to fund a business, you can do so with alternative currencies. The issue? The US government makes any other currency but the US Dollar against the law. So Libertarians are fighting for more freedom, for everyone, and this will help blacks as well.








"Now today, what will happen if you're a black man and try to start a business? Well more than likely the bank will deny you a loan, because you're black, and they have statistics stating that it is risky to invest in any black enterprise."




How does a bank, assuming they are staffed exclusively with foaming at the mouth racists, know which loan applicants are black and which are not unless the applicant tells them?


Isn't the inherent risk associated with lending to blacks the direct result of CRA regulations that require lending in spite of risk factors that would preclude lending to anyone with similar risk factors who are not covered by the CRA, like white people?


This is why Democrats can take the black vote for granted.


Democrats are the only party willing blame every problem black people have on pervasive white racism.
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Old 05-15-2016, 12:48 PM
 
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No people regardless of ethnicity should not vote without first showing reasonable knowledge of the candidates and their platform. Americans are 35% illiterate regarding the political process. Voting is
too frequently narrowed down to popularity based on personality and NOTHING else. I also feel it is very insulting to isolate blacks in the voting process!! The apathy within the American voting arena is nothing short of gross ignorance and zero interest coupled with inherited mindsets ( a ship of fools).
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Old 05-15-2016, 02:04 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Any society where discrimination is legal, that is a scary society to live in. All I have to do is look to the period before the 1960s.
Like Affirmative Action?

First off anyone who thinks government is society needs to have their head examined for clotted blood vessels because the blood ain't getting to the brain. An entity that uses force and coercion to get what they want, even when no ones rights have been violated, is okay with you?

Any society where discrimination is illegal in the private sector, that is a scary society to live in. Since when does government get to infringe on the property rights of the individual? Because it's for we the peoples own good right?

Not many are wanting or justifying discrimination. We the People, as a society, use education and civil disobedience to expose the bigots. Each individuals moral compass will point to them the way to go. Where's it going to stop? Ban smoking in a private business? Too late. Government owns you. Bow down.

So you think government has it right now? For no other reason than you agree with them. You want government, the most corrupt entity in America, to be our moral compass. After all they've done to us? Why?
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Old 05-15-2016, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Texas
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"Now today, what will happen if you're a black man and try to start a business? Well more than likely the bank will deny you a loan, because you're black, and they have statistics stating that it is risky to invest in any black enterprise."

How does a bank, assuming they are staffed exclusively with foaming at the mouth racists, know which loan applicants are black and which are not unless the applicant tells them?

Isn't the inherent risk associated with lending to blacks the direct result of CRA regulations that require lending in spite of risk factors that would preclude lending to anyone with similar risk factors who are not covered by the CRA, like white people?

This is why Democrats can take the black vote for granted.

Democrats are the only party willing blame every problem black people have on pervasive white racism.
Banks don't care when it comes to loans. The individuals working in that bank may be racist in their private lives but they love money and making money probably more than anything else in life.
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