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I have been saying the same exact thing as a Libertarian this issue needs to be discussed and looked at very closely and right now no middle ground is in place for compromise when it should be.
You would be surprised how many people would actually be ok with that.
True. A lot of fundamentalists believe that if homosexuality is against their religious beliefs and they own a home or apartment complex that they are renting out, then they should have the right to evict somebody for being gay. In about half the states, this is still legal.
NATURAL RIGHTS - ... are the rights of life, liberty, PRIVACY, and good reputation.
- - - Black's Law Dictionary, Sixth Ed., p. 1324
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“PERSONAL LIBERTY, or the Right to enjoyment of life and liberty, is one of the fundamental or NATURAL Rights, which has been protected by its inclusion as a guarantee in the various constitutions, which is not derived from, or dependent on, the U.S. Constitution, which may not be submitted to a vote and may not depend on the outcome of an election. It is one of the most sacred and valuable Rights, as sacred as the Right to private property...and is regarded as inalienable.”
- - - 16 Corpus Juris Secundum, Constitutional Law, Sect.202, p.987
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No government, court, nor majority vote can change SACRED natural rights, like privacy, into something to be bent out of shape... unless you consent (or capitulate, standing mute).
To define the invasion of privacy as a “civil right” is evidence of perverted individuals in government, who have nothing but contempt for the endowed rights of the people.
I personally think both progressives and conservatives are missing the mark on the bathroom issue, and this is going to cause a lot of damage to this country and LGBT rights.
For the Left, this is a social justice issue that should be enforced regardless of how individual people and communities feel about it. While I don't 100% disagree with that, you have to take into account where the country currently is on this issue and take into account the possibility of backlash setting back progress that has already been achieved. Half the country still does not accept gay marriage. More than half are uncomfortable with laws affirming restroom choice by gender identity. I think the left is running into danger of pushing too much, too soon and awakening a monster by pushing this issue so forcefully at this time. There are other LGBT causes that I would say America is more ready for, such as a national policy on employment and housing discrimination. This is a real issue for LGBT people, especially in Southern states where the laws allow employers to terminate or landlords to dismiss people discovered being gay. This also would benefit a much larger number of people than the bathroom issue which affects very few. Estimates are between 6-10% of the U.S. population falls somewhere within the LGBT umbrella, but less than 1% fall under the T.
Conservatives on the other hand, are making this into a much bigger issue than it should be. You hear about how these laws opening up bathrooms to perverts and predators. However, some pedophiles are homosexual and they already have access to the bathroom with young boys. And people are living in a fantasy world if they think a teenage boy is going to identify as transgender just to get access to the women's bathroom. Plus, truly transgender people in the bathroom that matches their birth certificate is also going to create problems and make everyone uncomfortable. Their fears are based on right-wing hysteria from the likes of Glenn Beck and Mark Levin and not reality. The truth of the matter, for conservatives, is that with gay marriage the law of the land and more and more accepting that it isn't changing, this has given them a new issue to continue their social crusade. Nothing "rallies the flock" like LGBT hysteria. That is why conservatives are so obsessed with this. As HB2 has shown us, it isn't just about bathrooms. Bathroom bills are almost always cover for broader discrimination against the LGBT community. HB2 legalizes employment and housing discrimination, which I discussed above, in the state of North Carolina. Nobody is talking about that though since everybody is focused on restrooms. The religious right see this as a perfect opportunity to get real discriminatory laws passed.
With all of that said, why can't we come together as a country as adults and come up with a real solution to this? There has to be some kind of solution that accommodates truly transgender people while mitigating some of the fears that conservatives have about sexual predators. It isn't really that big of an issue. In order to do that however, the name-calling and hysteria on both sides has to stop.
The easiest solution is men use the men's room and women use the women's room. The gender confused seek mental help, problem solved.
I personally think both progressives and conservatives are missing the mark on the bathroom issue, and this is going to cause a lot of damage to this country and LGBT rights.
For the Left, this is a social justice issue that should be enforced regardless of how individual people and communities feel about it. While I don't 100% disagree with that, you have to take into account where the country currently is on this issue and take into account the possibility of backlash setting back progress that has already been achieved. Half the country still does not accept gay marriage. More than half are uncomfortable with laws affirming restroom choice by gender identity. I think the left is running into danger of pushing too much, too soon and awakening a monster by pushing this issue so forcefully at this time. There are other LGBT causes that I would say America is more ready for, such as a national policy on employment and housing discrimination. This is a real issue for LGBT people, especially in Southern states where the laws allow employers to terminate or landlords to dismiss people discovered being gay. This also would benefit a much larger number of people than the bathroom issue which affects very few. Estimates are between 6-10% of the U.S. population falls somewhere within the LGBT umbrella, but less than 1% fall under the T.
Conservatives on the other hand, are making this into a much bigger issue than it should be. You hear about how these laws opening up bathrooms to perverts and predators. However, some pedophiles are homosexual and they already have access to the bathroom with young boys. And people are living in a fantasy world if they think a teenage boy is going to identify as transgender just to get access to the women's bathroom. Plus, truly transgender people in the bathroom that matches their birth certificate is also going to create problems and make everyone uncomfortable. Their fears are based on right-wing hysteria from the likes of Glenn Beck and Mark Levin and not reality. The truth of the matter, for conservatives, is that with gay marriage the law of the land and more and more accepting that it isn't changing, this has given them a new issue to continue their social crusade. Nothing "rallies the flock" like LGBT hysteria. That is why conservatives are so obsessed with this. As HB2 has shown us, it isn't just about bathrooms. Bathroom bills are almost always cover for broader discrimination against the LGBT community. HB2 legalizes employment and housing discrimination, which I discussed above, in the state of North Carolina. Nobody is talking about that though since everybody is focused on restrooms. The religious right see this as a perfect opportunity to get real discriminatory laws passed.
With all of that said, why can't we come together as a country as adults and come up with a real solution to this? There has to be some kind of solution that accommodates truly transgender people while mitigating some of the fears that conservatives have about sexual predators. It isn't really that big of an issue. In order to do that however, the name-calling and hysteria on both sides has to stop.
Biggest problem?
You do not dictate to the American People....."period".
Obama can't just make such a major change in society by declaration.
This is precisely the problem with the "accommodate everybody" mentality. The facts are, you just cannot accommodate everyone for everything, because the list is endless. Just think for a second about the implications of your idea … every business, every public place, every school, every restaurant …. millions of additional 3rd bathrooms required, including the astronomical costs to do this, all to "accommodate" a tiny number of gender confused people suffering a mental disorder?
It's a ridiculous proposition on the surface, and why all similar leftist policies of accommodate everyone are such an economic disaster looking for a place to happen. Unintended, unforeseen consequences are NEVER considered by the left.
So they are a minority. Are they not equal then? I think your bigotry is a mental disorder. Stop looking through your tunnel vision and accept people for who they are because you are not superior.
Why is it an issue though? The reason is that Houston quietly passed a non-discrimination ordinance that covered bathrooms. In response, some local pastors sued the city and then the mayor had them subpoenaed, requesting that they turn over copies of their sermons. That awakened the religious right persecution complex and they had a huge rally in Houston that was broadcast to fundamentalist churches nationwide, complete with the Duck Dynasty cast, to turn out voters for Republicans in the 2014 midterm election and repeal HERO. In response, the SJW crowd took up the issue. So now, this is a defining cultural issue for both the religious right and the SJWs.
The truth is, this should have never been an issue in the first place. It isn't something that was being talked a lot about even in the LGBT community prior to the 2014 Houston right-wing rally. It's a manufactured issue, but now that the pandora's box is open, closing it will not be easy.
Apparently you only know about HERO through the New York Times.
HERO meant that business owners and employees could face government sanctions for making an inquiry about suspicious behavior around a restroom. If you owned a business and saw a man lurking around a woman's restroom and you asked that man what he was doing, he could file a complaint against your business claiming he felt transgender at that moment and your business could be investigated by the city with potential repercussions.
Ah yea, the typical conservative "both sides do it..its a wash" argument. Just admit that you areon the wrong side of history and move on. But that will be hard for conservatives who are still arguing that slavery wasn't all bad..
Ah yea, the typical conservative "both sides do it..its a wash" argument. Just admit that you areon the wrong side of history and move on. But that will be hard for conservatives who are still arguing that slavery wasn't all bad..
Nobody, and nothing is "equal". Are we of equal height? Weight? Intelligence? Motivation? Drive? Ambition? I repeat ….. nobody and nothing is equal! Not even rain.
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I think your bigotry is a mental disorder.
Common sense isn't bigotry, nor a mental disorder.
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Stop looking through your tunnel vision and accept people for who they are because you are not superior.
Me superior? Listen up … I ain't the one demanding special restroom accommodations for my gender confused ass that doesn't know which god damned bathroom to use!
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