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Old 05-17-2016, 11:34 AM
 
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I am a Liberal Democrat and I really resent having to present a picture ID card to the Registrar before I obtain a ballot to vote. I am willing to announce in public my name and address to the official but requiring me to present a picture presumes I am a liar. I am insulted by that presumption.


The principal reason for these laws is to restrict the right to vote to the proper people (white, middle income or above, conservative) while excluding the poor, disabled and elderly.

When you are asked for your ID in other situations, such as when cashing a check, are you insulted then as well? It's the same presumption, right?
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:34 AM
 
Location: MS
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Is it really fiscally responsible to spend so much time, money, and effort to stamp out a problem that is so minuscule and small? It would be like having my entire house fumigated because I found one tiny ant in my basement.
There is never just one ant, termite or mouse. By the time you see one, there is an infestation. In my opinion, voter fraud is the same way.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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I am a Liberal Democrat and I really resent having to present a picture ID card to the Registrar before I obtain a ballot to vote. I am willing to announce in public my name and address to the official but requiring me to present a picture presumes I am a liar. I am insulted by that presumption.
You liberals are an easily insulted bunch aren't you?

So, let me get this straight, we should just do away with ID'S altogether and just take people's word for who they claim to be? Sure, just write me a check ... no need for an ID ... I trust you

This, therein lies the basis for why us common sense folks fear liberals running the country.

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The principal reason for these laws is to restrict the right to vote to the proper people (white, middle income or above, conservative) while excluding the poor, disabled and elderly.
Are you suggesting that us racists whites discriminate against other racist whites just because they are elderly racist whites? Or are you suggesting that upon reaching that magic age defined as elderly (whatever age that might be), we racist whites cease to be racist whites and now become victims of younger racist whites?

May I suggest an alternative viewpoint? Methinks you are in need of professional help.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The era of Democrats perfect exploitation of race to implement a liberal agenda is over. You're race card has expired.

Drop the race bating and get on with debating the matter of keeping our country prosperous and free.
What I find hilarious right now is all the screeching of "voter fraud" by the far left Sanders supporters, with regard to the DNC and Hillary. Funny thing is that most (all?) closed Dem primaries and caucuses require ID to enter/vote. Dems are so afraid of Democrat vote fraud at the primary...but when the general comes up we're just supposed to accept that it doesn't happen then.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:56 AM
 
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There is never just one ant, termite or mouse. By the time you see one, there is an infestation. In my opinion, voter fraud is the same way.
Saying, "Well, there must be more", doesn't always make it so. The burden of proof lies with the accusers to prove there is significant voter fraud. They have never been able to do so.
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Old 05-17-2016, 11:58 AM
 
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Saying, "Well, there must be more", doesn't always make it so. The burden of proof lies with the accusers to prove there is significant voter fraud. They have never been able to do so.
How can you without checking ID's? I swear the leftwing mind is devoid of critical thinking.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:01 PM
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Location: Where my bills arrive
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I am a Liberal Democrat and I really resent having to present a picture ID card to the Registrar before I obtain a ballot to vote. I am willing to announce in public my name and address to the official but requiring me to present a picture presumes I am a liar. I am insulted by that presumption.


The principal reason for these laws is to restrict the right to vote to the proper people (white, middle income or above, conservative) while excluding the poor, disabled and elderly.
Oh give me a break.....

I don't care what your political leanings may be but the world is not sunshine and unicorns, people lie and requesting what is a normal in life item is not unreasonable. You can shout it from the roof tops but that won't add validity to the statements you make. As for the "poor, disabled, and elderly" I am sure most have a form of ID to receive their Social Assistance in whatever form they are eligible.

Should your credit card number ever be improperly used don't get angry I am sure the user was able to stand there and clearly state the name on the card because the clerk didn't bother to ask for an ID Card..
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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How can you without checking ID's? I swear the leftwing mind is devoid of critical thinking.
My issue isn't with the premise of Voter ID, in and of itself. That doesn't bother me. What bothers me is how right after they passed the law, they started making it harder to actually get an ID by slashing DMV hours across the state, etc. Those actions, coupled with the information in the article I linked to, shows what their intent really was.

Enough with the *wink wink, nudge nudge* stuff about eliminating voter fraud, OK?
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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Suddenly liberals care about fiscal responsibility. Now that's rich.
Hahaha ... That is funny.

The bribe taking politicians can spend hundreds of millions on campaigns, and the liberals are worried that simply checking someone's ID at the voting booth, to ensure the integrity of our Democratic process, is just too expensive?

Tell that to the dozens of Bars in every city that check everyone's ID to make sure they are of legal age.

Tell that to California who now wants to check everyone's ID at the thousands of convenience stores just to purchase a pack of cigarettes.

But to safeguard the integrity of our election process, and prevent the subversion of our voter laws, checking ID's would be an irresponsible waste of money, and also offensive to people because we refuse to take their word for who they are?

We are quickly becoming a Nation of Nitwits.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:14 PM
 
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The Voter ID crowd embarrassed themselves in the courts when it was found that the "problem" of fraudulent voting isn`t a problem at all.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...Vt6W_blog.html
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