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Old 05-21-2016, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I think the big problem is that it costs money and doesn't actually work.
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Old 05-21-2016, 08:47 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Honestly, I have absolutely no problem with profiling Muslims and Arabs and checking them with much more scrutiny. That's what they do at Israeli airports and Israel has the safest airports in the world. .
That's great.
But since Joe Idiot is the TSA screener, every brown person gets nailed with extra "scrutiny."
It gets old really effin' fast.
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:19 PM
 
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The essential problem with TSA is that if most of these people didn't work for TSA they would either be operating the fry machine, in jail, or on welfare.
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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TSA finds record 2,653 guns at airport checkpoints in 2015 typical haul
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:38 PM
 
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Are you trying to make the case that without govt security there would be no security?
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:43 PM
 
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I was under the impression that the recent probles are a result of so many TSA employees walking off the job and they are simply understaffed. And with the attitudes of some commenting in this thread it's obviously a crappy job. I get the frustration, I've been through it too. But it must be terrible to get so much abuse from people whose life you are trying to protect.

But I can't see how anyone can claim the screening has not prevented attacks. Given the number of flights and the number of these wack jobs we woukd have certainly seen a few more US jets destroyed if we went back to 1965 security procedures.
Do you seriously believe the majority of TSA agents really care about protecting lives?
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Old 05-21-2016, 01:49 PM
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Some consumer complaint needs to be brought to bear on the airlines--as well as municipal public transit--about the proliferation and expansion of this.

TSA is not only in airports now. New York City accepted TSA's wish to be installed into its subways to perform rolling bag-checks at portable stations--complete with standard airport blue uniforms with white armpatches:

https://www.google.com/search?q=mta+new+york+tsa&espv=2&biw=1584&bih=771& %20source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjS44K-l-vMAhVC1x4KHddTCxkQ_AUICCgD#tbm=isch&q=subway+tsa+n ew+york

TSA officers in the the same airport blues are also in Penn Station controlling passenger access to interstate trains.

Ultimately progressivism doesn't want you travelling at all, and that passage which is still available is to be heavy controlled. Leftist NSDAP brownshirts are now blueshirts.


Houstonites chased TSA off their bus system in 2012:

_"METRO FACES PUBLIC BACKLASH OVER COUNTER-TERROR INTITIAVE"_
METRO faces public backlash over counter-terror intitiave at Houston bus stops | abc13.com



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-nhKM3gEGs


This police state complains about manpower and funding at the airports, it can start there.
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:20 PM
 
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Flying out of SFO last year the lines were backed up. The supervisor came forward and told the staff to push people through the metal detector to get the lines down. I bet they get ten through the metal detector for each one through the scanner.
SFO is the only major airport in the U.S. that has employees from a private contractor (through the TSA's partnership program) performing TSA employee functions. IIRC, there are 17 other airports in the U.S. with such employees performing these public contact TSA functions, but all of those other locations don't serve major metropolitan areas. Given the strength of public employee unions in SF, and the 'liberalness' of SF, it is sort of ironic that SF is the only major U.S. city where the TSA function is performed by private sector employees rather than public sector employees.
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:25 PM
 
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The TSA and all the combo federal agencies created as a result of the knee jerk 911 commission need to be revisited in the light of day. GWB didn't dare turn down a suggestion from that commission.


Most government regs and laws immediately downstream of a disaster or catastropy, is more about chest beating of politicians looking for favorable pr for the next election than it is about solving a problem or preventing another disaster.


when 90% of screenering fail to find a fake bomb and when several agencies get a phone call from Russia about the boston bomber being a bad guy and they investigate him and find no problem, there is something institutionally wrong. Very wrong. these are the same people obama told us would investigate incoming refugees with fake passports and no place to check their history. As they say, 'a fish stinks from the head down'.
Yep. This post hits the nail on the head. We should also take a harder look at how Israel does their screening and incorporate some or all of their methods.
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Old 05-21-2016, 02:32 PM
 
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There's numerous articles/blogs/discussions on privatizing TSA by countless think tanks - i think Mises does a decent job at elaborating on why DHS/TSA should be abolished.
I agree...and it is pretty sad that 90+ % of incumbents get reelected when Congress has what....an 11% or so approval rating. The old 'my guy is great but all the others are terrible' attitude.
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