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Old 05-25-2016, 06:53 AM
 
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How can the U.S. be so proud of its "individualism", yet dismiss independent thinking so easily?

It seems that people in each demographic are expected to vote as one unified group.

Why is it frowned upon or even "betrayal" for a minority person to vote Republican? Why is a middle-aged family man a "pussy" if he supports the Democrats? Why do your politicians spend so much time pandering to each group?

I don't understand why Americans are made to feel guilty about voting for what they believe as individuals.

"You are Demographic X, so Politician X is best for you" treats people as though they cannot think for themselves. Wouldn't it be better if people were encouraged to come to their own conclusions before subscribing to something?


The answer is actually very simple. Democrats are masters of identity politics. Its not very difficult to figure out.

 
Old 05-25-2016, 06:56 AM
 
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Yes Luke you beat me to it .... the godless socialist Dept. of Education.
 
Old 05-25-2016, 06:58 AM
 
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I'm not British. I just like fish and chips.

Where I'm from, there's less public association between identity and political affiliation. While socioeconomic status can influence how people vote, there is little societal pressure for someone to vote one way or the other.

No one "owes" their demographic anything, if that makes sense. People are also less open about their political views.

It's about the individual's particular life situation and what they think is best for them at the time.

I was just curious about why the U.S. doesn't do this as much, given that you are guys are more individualistic than we are in some other ways (e.g. healthcare).
Since we don't know where you're from, we can't intelligently explain why we're different from your particular country, because we certainly aren't different from the rest of the world.
 
Old 05-25-2016, 07:10 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Fish & Chips View Post
How can the U.S. be so proud of its "individualism", yet dismiss independent thinking so easily?

It seems that people in each demographic are expected to vote as one unified group.

Why is it frowned upon or even "betrayal" for a minority person to vote Republican? Why is a middle-aged family man a "pussy" if he supports the Democrats? Why do your politicians spend so much time pandering to each group?

I don't understand why Americans are made to feel guilty about voting for what they believe as individuals.

"You are Demographic X, so Politician X is best for you" treats people as though they cannot think for themselves. Wouldn't it be better if people were encouraged to come to their own conclusions before subscribing to something?
Most of your questions are predicated upon a false premise. I'm not sure where you get these ideas, but my guess is that they come from what you see on television.

You have to consider that American politics are different than what you're used to , because we're a very different country with different challenges. For one, America is 10 times more populated than Canada. Y'all are smaller than the state of California. The politics of running a large country with only 2 parties are different than a small country with many parties.

Canada didn't have a racial underclass in slavery for 500 years. You don't border a third-world country, with a lot of illegal immigration that undercuts your wages and speaks a different language.
 
Old 05-25-2016, 07:30 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Fish & Chips View Post
I'm not British. I just like fish and chips.

Where I'm from, there's less public association between identity and political affiliation. While socioeconomic status can influence how people vote, there is little societal pressure for someone to vote one way or the other.

No one "owes" their demographic anything, if that makes sense. People are also less open about their political views.

It's about the individual's particular life situation and what they think is best for them at the time.

I was just curious about why the U.S. doesn't do this as much, given that you are guys are more individualistic than we are in some other ways (e.g. healthcare).

Individual americans are not always what the media or sociologists think we are.
 
Old 05-25-2016, 03:59 PM
 
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Individual americans are not always what the media or sociologists think we are.
Ding, ding ding.

We have a winner.
 
Old 05-25-2016, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Originally Posted by Fish & Chips View Post
How can the U.S. be so proud of its "individualism", yet dismiss independent thinking so easily?

It seems that people in each demographic are expected to vote as one unified group.

Why is it frowned upon or even "betrayal" for a minority person to vote Republican? Why is a middle-aged family man a "pussy" if he supports the Democrats? Why do your politicians spend so much time pandering to each group?

I don't understand why Americans are made to feel guilty about voting for what they believe as individuals.

"You are Demographic X, so Politician X is best for you" treats people as though they cannot think for themselves. Wouldn't it be better if people were encouraged to come to their own conclusions before subscribing to something?
Good thread. I am patiently waiting for some smart answers from smart CD posters because I certainly have no answers lol
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