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Old 05-25-2016, 01:09 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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So now, every state can pick and choose which Rights don't apply to them?

- black voters
- women voters
- abortion on demand

Anyone wish to add to the list?

Court says 2nd Amendment doesn't trump NJ's strict gun laws

1. This was an appellate court decision.

2. Nothing in that ruling "struck down" the 2nd Amendment. Every state can impose restrictions, and it happens that NJ is one of the most restrictive states.

3. NJ residents should elect gun-friendly legislators. Indeed, the NJ legislature recently said they were NOT going to accept Gov. Christie's proposed expansion of gun licenses within the state. So there you go--someone elected those dolts.

4. There's always rifles and shotguns.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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The constitution and bill of rights trumps every thing. If a judge actually said that he is an asshat idiot.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:50 PM
 
Location: MS
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I was unser the impression that conservatives championed state's rights. I guess they do, just not as it applies to guns.
If a state outlawed free speech and the feds did nothing then I would agree that is state's rights. But that would not be the case, the DOJ and the full weight of the federal government would come down on that state hard. The feds need to be consistent on every amendment to the Constitution. If they step in for free speech or any other Bill of Rights then they should do the same for states trampling the Constitution.
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Old 05-25-2016, 02:30 PM
 
Location: Houston
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1. This was an appellate court decision.

2. Nothing in that ruling "struck down" the 2nd Amendment. Every state can impose restrictions, and it happens that NJ is one of the most restrictive states.

3. NJ residents should elect gun-friendly legislators. Indeed, the NJ legislature recently said they were NOT going to accept Gov. Christie's proposed expansion of gun licenses within the state. So there you go--someone elected those dolts.

4. There's always rifles and shotguns.
Shotguns are excellent for home defense.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:24 PM
 
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I was unser the impression that conservatives championed state's rights. I guess they do, just not as it applies to guns.
i AM a champion of states rights, AS LONG AS they do not conflict with the US constitution, and the bill of rights there in.
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:35 PM
 
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The valid interests of We The People of the United States supersedes any and all New Jersey laws that infringe upon the Bill of Rights, specifically the Second Amendment.

There are really only one or two valid reasons for having a fedgov.

To prevent the states from depriving citizens of our constitutionally guaranteed rights.
The second is for the protection of the country.



Notice how the gun grabbers ignore "Ruled Upon" law .. Even when the law is affirmed by a Radical/Leftist court?


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“If ‘the right of the people to keep and bear arms’ is to have any force, the people must have a right to acquire the very firearms they are entitled to keep and to bear,” wrote Judge Diarmuid F. O’Scannlain for the 2-1 majority, quoting the Second Amendment.



“One cannot truly enjoy a constitutionally protected right when the state is permitted to snuff out the means by which he exercises it.”


The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeal
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Old 05-25-2016, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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I was unser the impression that conservatives championed state's rights. I guess they do, just not as it applies to guns.
I imagine that you are under the impression that Christy is a Conservative......
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Houston
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i AM a champion of states rights, AS LONG AS they do not conflict with the US constitution, and the bill of rights there in.
Would you champion states' rights over federally guaranteed civil rights as well?


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I imagine that you are under the impression that Christy is a Conservative......
I don't follow Christie so I'm indifferent.
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:21 PM
 
Location: louisville
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I was unser the impression that conservatives championed state's rights. I guess they do, just not as it applies to guns.
Need to qualify it wasn't the state... It was a judge and appellate court.

Some try to make everything left or right.
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Old 05-25-2016, 07:25 PM
 
Location: louisville
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Shotguns are excellent for home defense.
Actually, they aren't. Spray patterns are too dispersed after 20 feet and even carhart can stop 00 defense rounds. But that's ballistics... Nothing of importance.
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