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Old 05-30-2016, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Canada
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well, to me, it was a personal attack because obviously, they didn't like each other for whatever the reasons.

Do you HONESTLY believe Trump would have attacked other POWs for no reasons? Trump is impulsive, yes, he should have chosen different words, yes. But Do I believe he has attacked all veterans or POWs? Well, IN MY OPINION, he didn't.
Even Trump admits he backed McCain back in 2008..BUT just like he has proven..He loves yu when he thinks you can do something for him..BUT hates you when he knows you cannot.. But unfortunately Trump, like most Bully personality types always brush stroke everything ( inclusive) and wonder why when in running for highest office in the land..that School ground rules shouldn't apply to his tactics??

He's a bully..plain and simple..his tactics of suggested "Counter punching" constantly..individualizing/name calling always goes back to childhood behaviour.

IF Trump thinks this will ever fly Internationally..He's sadly mistaken...His personality have NO boundaries ..He doesn't care..He shoots from the hip, hurting so many who he wants support from..BUT has NO FILTER.

What makes you believe he will ever be able to interact with Congress/World Leaders? I just don't see it !!
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Old 05-30-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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Maybe the smart folks can learn to stay on topic.

Should Trump apologize to McCain? In my opinion, Nope. Nobody should be apologizing for personal opinions of another human being, veteran or not, hero or not.

Many here have said military people are not hero, should they be apologizing too? LOL haha

ps. not sure if I will be voting for Trump, but do I hate him because of this McCain comment? lol absolutely not.
Huh. What does this mean? "Nobody should be apologizing for personal opinions of another human being"? This is not what anyone is saying. No one is saying ffdtrump should apologize for anyone else's opinion! They saying he should apologize for his inappropriate statements.
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Old 05-30-2016, 06:48 PM
 
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I have heel spurs. Painful as all heck, and they just get worse and worse over time. Cortisone shots help for a couple years, but I can never stand for too long, you know like Donald does...every single day while campaigning.

As a FYI, Mine showed up in my 40's. I joined the military when I was 17-was never a problem. Once they occur though they do not seem to magically get better with age. Donald was lying, and dodging military service.
Not only lying but perhaps pulled some strings to avoid even serving as an eligible for duties other than combat. He could have served some duty stateside to relieve burden upon someone else....er, had he wanted to of course.
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Old 05-30-2016, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Even Trump admits he backed McCain back in 2008..BUT just like he has proven..He loves yu when he thinks you can do something for him..BUT hates you when he knows you cannot.. But unfortunately Trump, like most Bully personality types always brush stroke everything ( inclusive) and wonder why when in running for highest office in the land..that School ground rules shouldn't apply to his tactics??

He's a bully..plain and simple..his tactics of suggest "Counter punching" constantly..individualizing/name calling always goes back to childhood behaviour. IF Trump thinks this will every fly Internationally..He's sadly mistaken...His boundaries are undrawn..He doesn't care..He shoots from the hit hurting so many who he wants support from..BUT has NO FILTER.

What makes you believe he will ever be able to interact with Congress/World Leaders? I just don't see it !!
well, I don't disagree with you. I said he should have chosen different words.
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Old 05-30-2016, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Huh. What does this mean? "Nobody should be apologizing for personal opinions of another human being"? This is not what anyone is saying. No one is saying ffdtrump should apologize for anyone else's opinion! They saying he should apologize for his inappropriate statements.
well, okay then. To me, they didn't like each other, nothing more or less. It is not a battle between Trump vs POWs. It is Trump vs. McCain.
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Old 05-30-2016, 06:56 PM
 
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Trump should apologize to McCain and all American POWs.
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Old 05-30-2016, 06:57 PM
 
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All combat veterans are heroes to me, personally. He is just one of them. Honestly, one homeless veteran I knew was a kick ass war hero, in my opinion. But people would only see him as a homeless guy, I guess. Social status matters a great deal.
There are various classes of distinction and I'm one who, having served in the military, refuses to apply for a veteran license plate. My father was a Canadian veteran seeing 4 full years of duty overseas in three theaters of operations during WWII. My brother and I both saw peace time military service and would no more think of ourselves as veterans as kids born yesterday.

A veteran in my mind is someone who has deployed to an action theater. Nothing less suffices. Just because you were in and could have been deployed but were not, does not count to me. The real deal has had to have "walked the walk".
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Old 05-30-2016, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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There are various classes of distinction and I'm one who, having served in the military, refuses to apply for a veteran license plate. My father was a Canadian veteran seeing 4 full years of duty overseas in three theaters of operations during WWII. My brother and I both saw peace time military service and would no more think of ourselves as veterans as kids born yesterday.

A veteran in my mind is someone who has deployed to an action theater. Nothing less suffices. Just because you were in and could have been deployed but were not, does not count to me. The real deal has had to have "walked the walk".
Thank you. I agree. To me, hero can be a senator, hero can also be a homeless guy. like you said, walked the walk.
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Old 05-30-2016, 07:07 PM
 
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This is the kind of foolishness that gets under my skin.

When they lock you up and torture you for years, OF COURSE you'll compromise and maybe even collaborate just to make the misery stop. What did McCain's accusers do when THEY were tortured?

I'm not about to sit in judgement of McCain from my nice warm home in Arizona relative to his actions under duress as a prisoner in Vietnam while he was cold, wet, hungry, and in excruciating pain.

This crap needs to stop.
McCain's cell mate (after enduring years in solitary confinement) at the Hanoi Hilton, the late Col. Bud Day, stood by and supported McCain until the day he died. Col. Day was given the Medal of Honor upon his return. He is one of numerous POW's who came home and spoke of McCain's staunch resistance of the North Vietnamese while enduring years of unspeakable torture.

The majority of CD Trumpettes LOVE spreading lies and crap about McCain. They have demonstrated in post after post they have zero idea about what happened to the Americans held in the Hanoi Hilton. They don't care about the truth. They care about promoting Trump.

Trump won't apologize. He used the POW's to promote himself. A despicable act by a guy who is trying to con his way into the White House.
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Old 05-30-2016, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Even Trump admits he backed McCain back in 2008..BUT just like he has proven..He loves yu when he thinks you can do something for him..BUT hates you when he knows you cannot.. But unfortunately Trump, like most Bully personality types always brush stroke everything ( inclusive) and wonder why when in running for highest office in the land..that School ground rules shouldn't apply to his tactics??

He's a bully..plain and simple..his tactics of suggested "Counter punching" constantly..individualizing/name calling always goes back to childhood behaviour.

IF Trump thinks this will ever fly Internationally..He's sadly mistaken...His personality have NO boundaries ..He doesn't care..He shoots from the hip, hurting so many who he wants support from..BUT has NO FILTER.

What makes you believe he will ever be able to interact with Congress/World Leaders? I just don't see it !!
You have to know that just because people say that they agree with Trump, doesn't mean that they are Trump supporters. How many of these "supports" can turn into actual votes is the question.

Career politicians created trump, flawed system created trump. It is going to be Hillary vs Trump, the question for me is who is slightly better? I believe Trump would help the veterans, He talked about them all the time. Maybe this is just my wishful thinking.

Trump and Mccain dislike each other, so i viewed the comments as a personal attack. Even McCain himself said,

Trump taps into "anger" and "frustration" among the electorate, especially among voters who haven't seen significant improvements in their lives

My friend is suffering from skin cancer due to gunshot wounds, he is only 32 years old. He has waited 2 months and he is still waiting. Are you telling me that I should be more pissed off at Trump's remarks? Gee people have different priorities. First, they told him that he had to make an appointment for blood work, then they told him that he had to wait another month or so for an appointment. Why is it so hard for him to see a specialist? It is really difficult to drive, making food, tie your shoes, hold your child with that one arm, you know?

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