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Old 06-03-2016, 06:12 AM
 
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Many boomers are not doing great. Many are retired but still have to work other jobs because they can't afford to live. And millenials don't need to wake up. They are just like every other generation that people have complained about.
Obviously they should have voted themselves better retirement packages! So what if their grandkids need to work 2 jobs to afford anything, they got theirs.
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Old 06-03-2016, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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they aren't all stupid.

just like not all democrats are socialists and not all republicans are Christian bigots.

people need to stop generalizing.


Ok fine,

A noticeably larger percentage of young people seem to be stupid, lazy, entitled, whining little babys than they used to be.


Better?
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Old 06-03-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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That's actually not true.
Researchers say Western IQs dropped 14 points over last century
https://www.yahoo.com/news/blogs/sid...94.html?ref=gs

Falls right in line with what's happening in the US. Socioeconomic level is correlated to intelligence/education. Women who receive public assistance, as a group, have a birth rate 3 times higher than those who don't. Just found a Medicaid citation yesterday (published June 29, 2015) indicating that Medicaid (medical care welfare program for the poor) now pays for 48% of all US births, up from 44.9% a few years ago.

https://www.medicaid.gov/medicaid-50...men/women.html
IQ's have been on the rise for a long time. When given standardized tests from previous generations, younger generations have consistently outscored the previous ones. It's called the Flynn effect. This is mainly due to enriched environments that previous generations never experienced.

What you are referring to is called dysgenic mating where Since the mid-1800s, IQ and reproduction have been negatively correlated.

Basically we're getting better plant food but worse seeds.
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Old 06-03-2016, 11:59 AM
 
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IQ's have been on the rise for a long time.
You didn't read the article. IQs in the western world have been on the decline over the past 100 years for exactly the reasons stated: over-reproduction of the poor class.
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Old 06-03-2016, 02:59 PM
 
Location: Prescott Arizona
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You didn't read the article. IQs in the western world have been on the decline over the past 100 years for exactly the reasons stated: over-reproduction of the poor class.
Nope.

That's one article, and it's not telling the whole truth. Do some more research. Even in the Western world non-standardized IQ scores have increased on average 3 points every 10 years for the last century.

The average idiot now days would be of average intelligence 50 years ago, due to environmental factors. The problem is that the balance between intelligent people for the day is far more out of whack, due to over-reproduction of the poor class. While these people wouldn't be considered stupid 50 years ago if we sent them back in a time machine, they would have been considered stupid had they grown up in a time that lacked the environmental exposure of today's more complex world, due to poor genetic stock.

You and I both agree that people are less capable on average these days; however, the science says people are getting smarter on average given their huge environmental advantages. They're simply less intelligent or capable for the age they live in.
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Myrtle Creek, Oregon
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Obviously they should have voted themselves better retirement packages! So what if their grandkids need to work 2 jobs to afford anything, they got theirs.
That's exactly what we did. We paid excess SS taxes for 35 years so there would be a trust fund for our retirement. Millennials can step up and foot their own bill.
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Old 06-03-2016, 03:21 PM
 
Location: Divided Tribes of America
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Millenials are idiots. They didn't even have to compete in a globalized economy like the boomers did. The millennials had good jobs waiting for them right out of high school and didn't even need to go to college.

Oh wait.
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Old 06-03-2016, 05:24 PM
 
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Nope.

That's one article, and it's not telling the whole truth. Do some more research. Even in the Western world non-standardized IQ scores have increased on average 3 points every 10 years for the last century.
You do realize IQ tests are renormed, right? That's where the 14 point decline comes from. IQ tests have had to be renormed downward by 14 points over the past 100 years.
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Old 06-03-2016, 06:21 PM
 
Location: USA
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And here we go; yet another groundless and tired claim by "old timers" that "kids these days are all idiots."

Every generation in history has grumbled about "kids these days," and I find it amusing that no generation figures out the idiocy in continuing this silly trend. If one wants to talk about wisdom with age, that's debatable, but if there's one thing the old grouches grumbling about the young have yet to learn it is empathy and humility. They love to grumble about "lazy kids these days" while refusing to consider:
- The lack of jobs. No, kids can't just "go down the old steel mill, look the foreman in the eye, and get a job that afternoon." That steel mill closed - thanks to decisions made by the older generation who dares to complain about kids not finding work - and many other jobs went with it. Angry about the kids still being at home and under-employed? Maybe you should not have voted in favor of endless corporate hand-outs while shopping at Wal-mart.
- The higher expense of everything these days. I've lost track of the number of barely educated Boomers I've run into who have it made thanks to how cheap things were back in their day - education, housing, etc. These people are "lifers" at big companies with full pensions and got to enjoy the benefits of cheap education and relatively steady employment. If they suddenly had to compete on the open market, they'd be lucky to be paid half of what they are making today. Instead, they cruise to retirement, spewing venom about how their fat pension checks "aren't big enough" while daring to complain about the kids who come after them who will have to support their lavish lifestyles until the end. Yeah, no sympathy there.
- Their own bad decisions. Even if the kids today are "stupid," (which they are not - they see through the BS of their elders, for one thing) who made them that way? Oh, that's right - the previous generation. Slamming the young is slamming your own failings, and for the generation that gutted this nation, that is a loooong list.
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Old 06-03-2016, 06:31 PM
 
Location: USA
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People over 30 still remember riding bikes all day and building forts. They remember being able to get in fights or call each other F*ggots with little to no repercussions.

Basically what happened was crazy liberals and hippies from the 60's and 70's took over the educational system in the late 80's and 90's, while old school hard @ss teachers and administrators from the silent generation retired causing the educational system to turn into a giant liberal jerk fest.
So... if we could only get in more fights, use more insults, ride our bikes, and build forts again, everything would be OK?

Look, the educational system is in poor shape, but I've talked with plenty of older people over the years and it has ALWAYS been in poor shape in this nation unless you were lucky enough to go to a really good school with skilled teachers who cared deeply about their work.

Yes, now "evil liberals" have made it so you can't call people f*gs anymore or use the n-word - the horror! - and yes, modern schools have stripped out some important things to teach the tests, and that I'll agree is a problem. But let's stop kidding ourselves that everything was great "back in the day" and "evil liberals" ruined it for everyone by taking away our potty mouth. For example, go back a few generations and you had teachers in America punishing students for being left-handed since that was "of the devil!"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bias_a..._of_right_hand

Stupid is not limited to the current era, and I'd much rather live in a world where we get in trouble for using nasty insults vs. one where people get beaten for being left-handed. And that doesn't even begin to touch upon other "great" trappings of the past, such segregation, etc. Rose-colored glasses are no better than beer goggles for accuracy.
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