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You're describing fascism. Try comparing that to the Mondragon Corporation in Spain, or to the history of Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Netherlands, Iceland, Finland, etc. No similarities. But I understand your need to confuse reality and select the worst cases and exaggerate them.
There is NO socialist policy or theory which can be implemented without widespread violence, aggression, and coercion upon the individual. There is NO socialist policy or theory which can be implemented without widespread destruction of individual freedom. Socialism is nothing more than turning humans into insects serving a fictional "Queen's" interests. The Queen being the fictional collective. Humans are not insects in a colony, they are not a single organism. They all are unique with unique desires, interests, and preferences.
But that is not a rap against socialism alone, just to be fair. That is the rap against any form of "government" or "society", including our own disgusting form of "democracy" which is based entirely upon government aggression, violence, and coercion upon the individual. Whether "democracy", "socialism", "communism", "capitalism" does not matter. They are all systems of aggression so that one group can impose its will upon everyone else against their will.
I would love for socialists to have their own socialist places. Rather I have no problem with any collectivist/statist groups having their own little nightmares for themselves. It is only that they take prisoners and slaves that I detest, and that they should be ashamed of themselves for doing so...
For all of the supposed "beauty" and "fairness" of the silly disguises of collectivism/statism, they all are nothing but barbaric "justifications" for one group to use violence, aggression, and coercion to impose their personal whims upon everyone else...
Wage growth is low because of unemployment and especially under-employment ..... "you want a job? then take this $10/hr job or take unemployment". And under-employment is a problem because the republicans have obstructed as many of Obama's and Democrats' policies as possible and virtually stopped progress as they planned.
Under-employment is a problem because there is a glut of workers. Supply exceeds demand. We don't need H1-B visa workers and illegal immigrants when there aren't even enough jobs to go around for US citizens. The same concept results in clearance sales and drastically reduced prices in retail sales. When supply exceeds demand, prices are slashed. When the supply of workers exceeds demand, wages are depressed.
Wage growth is low because of unemployment and especially under-employment ..... "you want a job? then take this $10/hr job or take unemployment". And under-employment is a problem because the republicans have obstructed as many of Obama's and Democrats' policies as possible and virtually stopped progress as they planned. Ever hear anyone say "Congress is doing nothing"? Guess why. I just told you why.
This is why nothing ever changes for the better. The drooling public, led by their noses, haven't a clue about the cause and effect of disastrous policies and disastrous politicians that they wholeheartedly support and defend. And the bolded text above is all the evidence needed to support that claim.
The REALITY is, Republicans have done nothing to thwart Obama and his disastrous policies. Nothing,! Even so called conservative SCOTUS chief justice caved in, and provided the swing vote to Obama for ObamaCare, as he joined the America hating, Constitution hating liberal traitors on the left. And if you want to highlight any single cause for "under-employment", (there are multiple factors contributing) look NO FURTHER THAN OBAMACARE.
The imposition of mandatory health insurance for full time workers under ObamaCare GUARANTEED that employers would reduce hours of their employees in order to avoid that mandate. So this became a double whammy for the working class you liberal loons claim to be the champions of .... they have their hours/paychecks cut, while being required to pay for their own health insurance costs which is also skyrocketing thanks to ObamaCare, else suffer the big $$ penalties for not having health insurance. Of course, our taxes have to also increase to pay for the mandatory health insurance for the Millions who can't afford it.
Now, you wrecking ball lunatics want to impose a $15 per hour minimum wage, which represents a more than doubling of the hourly wages of millions of workers? And when someone tries to explain to you how that will GUARANTEE massive job losses, and slam the brakes on any new business growth, you respond by sticking your fingers in your ears, and singing la,la,la,la,la ...
BTW ... this is the reason why some tell you you are living in la, la land. Just an FYI.
Under-employment is a problem because there is a glut of workers. Supply exceeds demand.
Yes, and supply exceeds demand because we never fully extricated ourselves from the recent crash. Obama wanted to follow proven, effective solutions when he advocated huge infrastructure projects and alternative energy projects, but republican stopped it cold. So now we have the republican legacy: oversupply of under-employed workers.
There is NO socialist policy or theory which can be implemented without widespread violence, aggression, and coercion upon the individual. There is NO socialist policy or theory which can be implemented without widespread destruction of individual freedom. Socialism is nothing more than turning humans into insects serving a fictional "Queen's" interests.
False. You are simply against government and you invented a fantasy here to justify your position.
This is why nothing ever changes for the better. The drooling public, led by their noses, haven't a clue about the cause and effect of disastrous policies and disastrous politicians that they wholeheartedly support and defend. And the bolded text above is all the evidence needed to support that claim.
The REALITY is, Republicans have done nothing to thwart Obama and his disastrous policies. Nothing,!
Your la-la-land pretends there have not been record filibusters against proposed democratic policies and record numbers of bills the Speaker refused to let come to the floor for a vote.
This is why nothing ever changes for the better. The drooling public, led by their noses, haven't a clue about the cause and effect of disastrous policies and disastrous politicians that they wholeheartedly support and defend. And the bolded text above is all the evidence needed to support that claim.
The REALITY is, Republicans have done nothing to thwart Obama and his disastrous policies. Nothing,! Even so called conservative SCOTUS chief justice caved in, and provided the swing vote to Obama for ObamaCare, as he joined the America hating, Constitution hating liberal traitors on the left. And if you want to highlight any single cause for "under-employment", (there are multiple factors contributing) look NO FURTHER THAN OBAMACARE.
The imposition of mandatory health insurance for full time workers under ObamaCare GUARANTEED that employers would reduce hours of their employees in order to avoid that mandate. So this became a double whammy for the working class you liberal loons claim to be the champions of .... they have their hours/paychecks cut, while being required to pay for their own health insurance costs which is also skyrocketing thanks to ObamaCare, else suffer the big $$ penalties for not having health insurance. Of course, our taxes have to also increase to pay for the mandatory health insurance for the Millions who can't afford it.
Now, you wrecking ball lunatics want to impose a $15 per hour minimum wage, which represents a more than doubling of the hourly wages of millions of workers? And when someone tries to explain to you how that will GUARANTEE massive job losses, and slam the brakes on any new business growth, you respond by sticking your fingers in your ears, and singing la,la,la,la,la ...
BTW ... this is the reason why some tell you you are living in la, la land. Just an FYI.
This comment and your prior comment about the folly of "artificial adjustments" well demonstrates just how right you are, about "the drooling public," that "haven't a clue about the cause and effect..."
I by no means advocate socialism. "Managed capitalism" is the best way I know to describe what I think works well, but people just don't understand that the free market forever trends downward, to the least common denominator, when not in many ways managed, "artificially" managed. What so many people don't understand is that even businesses, large and small, NEED this artificial management, because otherwise they too are driven downward toward a gutter level competition that gives advantage to businesses that; don't provide adequate worker safety, environmental concern, worker compensation for injuries, health care, low wages. Companies NEED basic rules, including even minimum wage, to know they can compete in the market and provide adequate compensation in these regards without undue competition from "cut throat" business that can get away with doing far less? How can they do that? Because there is always someone willing to work for less and work in ****ty conditions in that line of applicants who just want work! I've seen how this works with my own business, but out of time now...
Maybe I can better explain later, why your premise is essentially wrong about how the free market works to our benefit when left entirely free.
Wage growth is low because of unemployment and especially under-employment ..... "you want a job? then take this $10/hr job or take unemployment". And under-employment is a problem because the republicans have obstructed as many of Obama's and Democrats' policies as possible and virtually stopped progress as they planned. Ever hear anyone say "Congress is doing nothing"? Guess why. I just told you why.
That isn't entirely accurate. We live in a global economy. Until wages world wide equilibrate we aren't going to see strong upward pressure on wages in the US. So we need to be putting pressure on higher wages world wide.
That isn't entirely accurate. We live in a global economy. Until wages world wide equilibrate we aren't going to see strong upward pressure on wages in the US. So we need to be putting pressure on higher wages world wide.
Good luck with that one. What about the other way around? What of those leaving lower wage states in America for hopes of higher pay in higher minimum wage states, at the expense of the lower wage states and their available labor force? Fact is, the loss of talent and money to the United States from other countries has been a problem for other countries and a benefit for the U.S. for many decades, for many reasons. In fact, much of our economy is relatively self-contained, consumer spending often quoted as 70 percent of our economy (though not entirely truly just consumer spending), still largely not dependent on the poorer economies of other countries. Agreed, however, there is downward and upward pressure that works both ways and that fine balance of proper trade policy and/or economic policy is difficult to get exactly right, always a work in progress in any case.
However, the free market is a problem left entirely free, and again, businesses large and small need the help toward maintaining a "level playing field." Another example, when I worked for one of the larger oil companies, there came along the obvious need to replace underground storage tanks, but this is a very VERY expensive proposition, not only for the large oil companies but also for the smaller "mom and pop" independent station owner/operators. The industry NEEDED government to establish the rules, the requirements, to replace ALL those tanks (with double-walled tanks), or those without the environmental concern, responsibility or money would simply elect not to replace those tanks. Examples like this are many throughout our economy, for many industries, and why "just leave it to the free market" is just dumb and uninformed opinion.
Yes, and supply exceeds demand because we never fully extricated ourselves from the recent crash.
Supply exceeds demand because we're not deporting all the illegal aliens.
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