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Old 06-04-2016, 03:57 PM
 
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If you care to refute the information in the article, that's fine, but isn't it kind of lame to simply attack the source?

Here's another article that might interest you:

Brown speaks the truth about California's job growth | PolitiFact California
Mother Jones is not an accepted source for anything.
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Old 06-05-2016, 06:52 AM
 
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Illegal immigrants do not get welfare or housing. Their children, if born in the US are eligible for food stamps and in some cases cash aid, but their eligibility does not entitle the parents to those benefits. Children not born in the US are not eligible for food stamps and are only entitled to emergency medical care.
I'm calling BS on that. How are all those illegal kids who crossed the border getting fed, housed, etc.? Who's paying for that?

Unaccompanied children crossing southern border in greater numbers - December 16, 2015 - Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...igrant-crisis/
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:19 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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Here in conservative new Hampshire our Democratic Governor has reported our State is suffering from a 2.9% unemployment rate. That is very inconvenient for most companies because employees want more them the minimum wage for their time.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:46 AM
 
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I'm calling BS on that. How are all those illegal kids who crossed the border getting fed, housed, etc.? Who's paying for that?

Unaccompanied children crossing southern border in greater numbers - December 16, 2015 - Washington Post
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...igrant-crisis/
You call BS on what? unaccompanied children are not given section 8, food stamps or welfare grants they are held in shelters.
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:52 AM
 
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You call BS on what? unaccompanied children are not given section 8, food stamps or welfare grants they are held in shelters.
Who pays for that shelter and food, etc., for illegal alien children? Do they pay for it themselves? Or do taxpayers pay?
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Old 06-05-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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Who pays for that shelter and food, etc., for illegal alien children? Do they pay for it themselves? Or do taxpayers pay?
Off topic, look that up for yourself if you are curious about it.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:27 AM
 
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LearnMe... I'm trying to understand where you stand on these issues. I wasn't trying to bring up the "guns" issue but rather point out that there are many liberals who think the conservative states are a redneck paradise that will devolve everyone shooting each other.

Illegal immigration is a VERY big deal. The public was told in the 80s that giving amnesty would solve the problem but that was a lie. The majority of those coming in illegally are on very bottom in terms of skill level. We have millions of people who can pick produce, clean houses or mow a yard. Furthermore, these individuals are crippling our social services. Illegal is illegal they knew that when they came over here but well aware that the US is too soft to stop it. Europe is finally seeing what CA has been dealing with for decades and you see how all of a sudden their stance change when it is in their own backyard.

While I am not against "rounding them up". Simply making it that you don't get ANY social services unless you are a citizen (welfare, housing, healthcare, education) would quickly have many of these people leave on their own.
If you want to understand where I stand on the issues I have commented about, read my words and/or quote me verbatim and let me know the source of the confusion. Otherwise, I can't speak to all that "many liberals" might "think," nor all the rights and/or wrongs of our immigration policy going back to the 80s...

I am simply a liberal and/or Progressive who speaks for myself.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:30 AM
 
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Off topic, look that up for yourself if you are curious about it.
Not off topic at all. They're illegal alien children not born in the US, and they're getting US taxpayer-funded welfare... food, housing, medical care, etc.
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:32 AM
 
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Incorrect. Employer identification is an accepted identifier for an 824 transaction... That's enrollment
Perhaps another fact that points to the complicity of American employers when it comes to the blame game for illegal immigration...

Mexican comes to Texas to visit (live) with family, and white American citizen pays him U.S. dollars to work for him. Hard for that Mexican to really feel in the wrong if he is being paid to work by an American citizen let alone an American company, right? If that's "criminal," then stealing candy should be a felony...
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Old 06-05-2016, 08:34 AM
 
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Not off topic at all. They're illegal alien children not born in the US, and they're getting US taxpayer-funded welfare... food, housing, medical care, etc.
THIS is what you responded to,
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Illegal immigrants do not get welfare or housing. Their children, if born in the US are eligible for food stamps and in some cases cash aid, but their eligibility does not entitle the parents to those benefits. Children not born in the US are not eligible for food stamps and are only entitled to emergency medical care.
Nothing in there about unaccompanied immigrant children being held in shelters, was there?
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