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Old 06-03-2016, 10:17 AM
 
Location: McKinleyville, California
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Have Obama rescind the schools edict, and leave things the way they were everywhere else. As everyone keeps saying, the TRULY transgender were discreetly using the restroom of their choice for years if not decades. Permitting those who merely "claim" to be MTF transgenders (with no way to determine the legitimacy of that claim whatsoever) even though they still have penises and testicles into girls'/women's multiple occupancy changing/locker/shower rooms is unacceptable. Period.

Like I said... LGBTs have allowed themselves and their cause to be exploited, and that has damaged a lot of the sympathy and good will the general public had formerly felt for them. They've made it so that any sexual predator male with an exposure fetish can now just stroll right into the girl's/women's multiple occupancy locker/shower room, strip down to nothing, and if he "says" he's "transgender," no girl/woman can do a thing about it except to submit to indecent exposure ...or leave. And similarly, there's no way to stop male voyeur sexual predators from watching girls/women undress or shower under the same circumstances. All they have to do is "say" they're "transgender" and all's good; no one can challenge their right to be there.
No it has not, the law allows transgendered to use the restroom and locker room that fits their identity, it has not allowed for perverted straight men to just go into a woman restroom, pervert or not. Paranoia leads many to such absurd ideas. Women have more to fear from ordinary men then from transgendered people and that is always how it has been.

 
Old 06-03-2016, 10:20 AM
 
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They'd be promptly kicked out by management, admin, etc. Girls/women would call the police, and they's actually show up and eject the person exposing his penis and testicles. Not any more. All sexual predators they have to do now is "claim" to be "transgender" (which requires no proof whatsoever, only their "say so") and they can't be removed. Now, it's the girls/women who have to leave their own facilities, or take their chances that they'll be sexually victimized.
solution looking for a problem
 
Old 06-03-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No it has not, the law allows transgendered to use the restroom and locker room that fits their identity, it has not allowed for perverted straight men to just go into a woman restroom, pervert or not.
Based on what? There's no definitive identification of who is or who is not transgender. What's the criteria to identify someone as such? Merely someone's "say so" about themselves? And who is monitoring access to girls'/women's multiple occupancy restroom/locker/shower room facilities to make sure that only those who actually ARE transgender are admitted to the facilities? Will there be guards at each entrance the entire time such facilities are open?
 
Old 06-03-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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solution looking for a problem
Really? Tell that to the U of Toronto girls who were videotaped by males in the showers. Tell that to the women sexually attacked in women's shelters by a sexual predator who "claimed" to be "transgender."

How many more additional sex crime victims are enough for you all to understand you've ADDED to the victimization of women?
 
Old 06-03-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Really? Tell that to the U of Toronto girls who were videotaped by males in the showers. Tell that to the women sexually attacked in women's shelters by a sexual predator who "claimed" to be "transgender."

How many more additional sex crime victims are enough for you all to understand you've ADDED to the victimization of women?
Legislation that seeks to regulate access to public restrooms for transgender individuals on the basis of the sex they were assigned at birth does not make these crimes go away. It only hurts transgendered individuals.
 
Old 06-03-2016, 10:57 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why should the whole of society be forced to change for such an incredibly miniscule amount of people?
Many gays pass for straight, so bigoted people haven't been changing for them. The real question that should be asked is what motivates people to discriminate against gays who can't pass as straight? Is it simply taking offense over their oral and anal sex acts with the same sex? If so, how is this a legitimate reason to discriminate against gays? Surely some straights engage in consensual sex acts other straights may find greatly offensive. Gays, too. If offended, then just respond by NOT participating in such sex acts. Don't discriminate against a person because of them.
 
Old 06-03-2016, 11:54 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Legislation that seeks to regulate access to public restrooms for transgender individuals on the basis of the sex they were assigned at birth does not make these crimes go away. It only hurts transgendered individuals.
Transgendered according to WHAT definition? Do you NOT see that's the problem?

There's no definitive identification of who is or who is not transgender. What's the criteria to identify someone as such? Merely someone's "say so" about themselves? And who is monitoring access to girls'/women's multiple occupancy restroom/locker/shower room facilities to make sure that only those who actually ARE transgender are admitted to the facilities? Will there be guards at each entrance the entire time such facilities are open?

Given that newly introduced REALITY, any sexual predator male with an exposure fetish can now just stroll right into the girl's/women's multiple occupancy locker/shower room, strip down to nothing, and if he "says" he's "transgender," no girl/woman can do a thing about it except to submit to indecent exposure ...or leave. And similarly, there's no way to stop male voyeur sexual predators from watching girls/women undress or shower under the same circumstances. All they have to do is "say" they're "transgender" and all's good; no one can challenge their right to be there.

How many more additional girl/woman victims of sexual predators exploiting this "policy" will it take for you all to back off?!? How many MORE women have to suffer? How many is enough?

I would REALLY like any of you to answer that question.

Do you NOT see how misogynistic your demands are? Why DEMAND girls/women expose themselves to male sexual predators posing as transgenders just so that 0.3% of the population can use the restroom of their choice, which they have already been doing anyway?

How INCREDIBLY selfish of many of you to change what has essentially been a NON-issue up to this point to enable EVEN MORE victimization of women. /puke
 
Old 06-03-2016, 11:57 AM
 
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. . . How INCREDIBLY selfish of many of you to change what has essentially been a NON-issue up to this point . . . .
exactly
 
Old 06-03-2016, 12:00 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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exactly
So why the LGBT's obsessive need to victimize even MORE girls/women?
 
Old 06-03-2016, 12:05 PM
 
Location: Florida
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