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Old 06-06-2016, 01:43 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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How long should he be locked up? 5 years? 20 years? Life? He still has to go to jail for 6 months with 3 years probation, which isn't exactly a walk in the park. Obviously what he did was horrible, but he sounds more like a typical dumb frat kid who made a big mistake that he will hopefully learn from, rather than a super dangerous person who needs to be locked away forever.
How long? Same sentence as would anyone else with 3 felony sexual assault convictions. Max = 14 years and the state was asking for 6 years.

How do you know he won't do it again without slapping his wrist really really hard the first time he's caught?

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This is a another great example why colleges and students should stop glorifying "Greek life" and fraternities. The college is of course never responsible for the atrocities that regularly occur on their campuses. This stuff happens every day on campuses, this guy just happened to get caught and make the news. If colleges would start to be held accountable for fraternities actions, they would crack down on the mess real quick.
Both the colleges and the perpetrators need to be held accountable.

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Also, if you drink heavily to the point where you pass out unconscious as a young female around a bunch of dumb frat guys, you have to understand that your risk for something bad happening to you is greatly increased. That doesn't make it her fault, but is true. The real sad part is this situation is easily avoidable with some common sense on where/when/with whom/ and how much you drink. Hopefully the young lady is able to mentally work through what happened and is able to move on with her life as normal as possible.
Ok, so she's guilty for drinking too much. What does that have anything to do with the ridiculously lenient sentence on the rapist?

Read the victim's open letter to the perp: Brock Turner sexual assault case: Stanford victim's letter to attacker, judge - San Jose Mercury News

Now read the perp's father's letter to the judge asking for probation only because his son only had 20 minutes of action:The Stanford Rapist's Father Offers An Impossibly Offensive Defense Of His Son | ThinkProgress
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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Gee, I dunno. How long should She have to suffer the long term effects of rape?

He's not a dumb kid that did a dumb thing. It had to be part of his psychology before he committed the crime. Not like there was a gun to his head.
Have you read her victim impact statement? Here's the whole thing.

That young man should have been given more jail time.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:45 PM
 
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Nowhere in the letter from the father did he express even one iota of concern for the lady his son raped. Only thing he cared about was his 'poor' son, he can't eat, his life is ruined, OMG.
It's almost like the affluenza case all over again ...
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:47 PM
 
Location: Inland Northwest
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Why was he only convicted of sexual assault and not actual rape?
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Central Florida
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How long should he be locked up? 5 years? 20 years? Life? He still has to go to jail for 6 months with 3 years probation, which isn't exactly a walk in the park. Obviously what he did was horrible, but he sounds more like a typical dumb frat kid who made a big mistake that he will hopefully learn from, rather than a super dangerous person who needs to be locked away forever.

This is a another great example why colleges and students should stop glorifying "Greek life" and fraternities. The college is of course never responsible for the atrocities that regularly occur on their campuses. This stuff happens every day on campuses, this guy just happened to get caught and make the news. If colleges would start to be held accountable for fraternities actions, they would crack down on the mess real quick.

Also, if you drink heavily to the point where you pass out unconscious as a young female around a bunch of dumb frat guys, you have to understand that your risk for something bad happening to you is greatly increased. That doesn't make it her fault, but is true. The real sad part is this situation is easily avoidable with some common sense on where/when/with whom/ and how much you drink. Hopefully the young lady is able to mentally work through what happened and is able to move on with her life as normal as possible.
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!

Typical drunk frat kids do not rape girls. This has nothing to do with Greek life. You seem to be blaming the girl for getting drunk around frat kids, and lessening the guilt on the rapist. I can see him getting drunk again and doing the same thing. After all, he got off easy so he will be more careful about getting caught the next time.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Originally Posted by 6.7traveler View Post
How long should he be locked up? 5 years? 20 years? Life? He still has to go to jail for 6 months with 3 years probation, which isn't exactly a walk in the park. Obviously what he did was horrible, but he sounds more like a typical dumb frat kid who made a big mistake that he will hopefully learn from, rather than a super dangerous person who needs to be locked away forever.

This is a another great example why colleges and students should stop glorifying "Greek life" and fraternities. The college is of course never responsible for the atrocities that regularly occur on their campuses. This stuff happens every day on campuses, this guy just happened to get caught and make the news. If colleges would start to be held accountable for fraternities actions, they would crack down on the mess real quick.

Also, if you drink heavily to the point where you pass out unconscious as a young female around a bunch of dumb frat guys, you have to understand that your risk for something bad happening to you is greatly increased. That doesn't make it her fault, but is true. The real sad part is this situation is easily avoidable with some common sense on where/when/with whom/ and how much you drink. Hopefully the young lady is able to mentally work through what happened and is able to move on with her life as normal as possible.
The minimum sentencing for his 3 felonies that the jury found him guilty of is 2 years. With a max of 14. So the judge willfully ignored the minimum.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:53 PM
 
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Cobb always have to interject the racial angle
LOL. C-D is built on the racial angle. Just look at the list of topics.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Oakland, CA
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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot!!!

Typical drunk frat kids do not rape girls. This has nothing to do with Greek life. You seem to be blaming the girl for getting drunk around frat kids, and lessening the guilt on the rapist. I can see him getting drunk again and doing the same thing. After all, he got off easy so he will be more careful about getting caught the next time.
This screams of intent too. It is not like he assaulted her at the party, he walked outside with her, took her behind a dumpster (ahem where no one would see). And she had injuries and pine needles and dirt all over. That's not a drunken hookup.
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:54 PM
 
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I figured they had to be wealthy---no lower-class person is named Brock!

The father whining that son/swimmer/rapist has lost his appetite for steak? Was that supposed to remind the judge of their social status and that this wasn't just a hot dog eater who would be sent to jail? And yes, the kid probably IS eating less now that he's not doing competitive swimming where they ear thousands of calories a day!

And "only" "20 minutes of action? Even if it was only 20 seconds, he still violated a woman's body without her consent. It can take less than 20 seconds to kill someone---they still need to serve time!
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Old 06-06-2016, 01:57 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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This screams of intent too. It is not like he assaulted her at the party, he walked outside with her, took her behind a dumpster (ahem where no one would see). And she had injuries and pine needles and dirt all over. That's not a drunken hookup.
And he ran after he was seen and had to be chased down and subdued.
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