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Old 06-04-2016, 10:56 AM
 
Location: NYC
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Brock Allen Turner, the former Stanford swimmer who was discovered raping an unconscious woman behind a dumpster on campus in January of last year, will be sentenced to six months in county jail and probation. Prosecutors had recommended that Turner receive a sentence of six years, but judge Aaron Persky determined that Turner's age — 20 — and lack of criminal history warranted him a much shorter sentence.

“A prison sentence would have a severe impact on him," Persky said at Turner's sentencing on Thursday. "I think he will not be a danger to others." Meanwhile, the 23-year-old victim in the rape case, who had had a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit at the time of the rape and who had no memory of the attack, gave important testimony at the trial.

"You took away my worth, my privacy, my energy, my time, my safety, my intimacy, my confidence, my own voice, until today," she said, reportedly directly to Turner. "I am a human being who has been irreversibly hurt." And yet it's Turner who would be severely impacted in his sentencing? Right.
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This "boys will be boys" ruling is a vicious slap in the face of every sexual assault victim, especially those who have chosen to step forward and seek justice. I hope it becomes a focal point to highlight just how awful things still are. This case needs to become a catalyst for change.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Texas
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This "boys will be boys" ruling is a vicious slap in the face of every sexual assault victim, especially those who have chosen to step forward and seek justice. I hope it becomes a focal point to highlight just how awful things still are. This case needs to become a catalyst for change.
1.lack of criminal history warranted him a much shorter sentence.

2.had a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit at the time of the rape

These two factors should lower the length of his incarceration not prevent it imo. That said the length of incarceration for rape is too low.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:04 AM
 
Location: Camberville
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Unfortunately, that's still 6 months longer than most rapists ever see in jail.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:08 AM
 
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1.lack of criminal history warranted him a much shorter sentence.

2.had a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit at the time of the rape

These two factors should lower the length of his incarceration not prevent it imo. That said the length of incarceration for rape is too low.
Not sure how point 2 has a bearing at all... The victim being incapacitated is part of what makes it rape in the first case.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:21 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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1.lack of criminal history warranted him a much shorter sentence.

2.had a blood-alcohol level three times the legal limit at the time of the rape

These two factors should lower the length of his incarceration not prevent it imo. That said the length of incarceration for rape is too low.
#2 was the BAC of the victim, not the perpetrator and should have no bearing on the sentence. If we head down that road, are we going to have zero sentencing for the rape of coma patients, or people under general anesthesia?

I'd even argue that because the victim was not in a position to defend themselves, the perpetrator actually should be given a lengthier sentence. I mean if you find someone unconscious behind a dumpster, you have to have some seriously messed up priorities if the first thing you think about is having sex with them without their consent.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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He's all white so it's alright. If he were black, I'm sure he wouldn't see the light of day until his 40s.
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Old 06-04-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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This "boys will be boys" ruling is a vicious slap in the face of every sexual assault victim, especially those who have chosen to step forward and seek justice. I hope it becomes a focal point to highlight just how awful things still are. This case needs to become a catalyst for change.
This judge and the one in the 'affluenza teen' case were made for each other, they should be handcuffed together and made to attend classes in critical thinking and common sense.

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Old 06-04-2016, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Jewel Lake (Sagle) Idaho
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Because-California. Can't actually punish criminals now, can we? Heck even murders or those guilty of manslaughter only get a handful of years before probation. What do you expect for drunken sex?

If it had been a privileged minority class, let alone a criminal alien, they most likely wouldn't serve a day. And the victim would be made to apologize for "white privilege".
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Old 06-04-2016, 12:08 PM
 
Location: H-Tine, Texas
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Not sure how point 2 has a bearing at all... The victim being incapacitated is part of what makes it rape in the first case.
Along with what you said in point #2, point #1 shouldn't have any bearing at all. Who cares if this POS didn't have a criminal background? He raped an unconscious woman.

With that line of thinking, murders with no priors should get off lighter, too.

This guy gets drunk and rapes a woman, but we don't want to mess up his bright future (because we're so sure he's going to turn out great, because why again?), but if some inner city minority gets busted with weed or stealing food from a convenience store because his family is poor, then we know the typical things he would get called.

And, I'm not annoyed with your post, just the person you quoted.

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Because-California. Can't actually punish criminals now, can we? Heck even murders or those guilty of manslaughter only get a handful of years before probation. What do you expect for drunken sex?

If it had been a privileged minority class, let alone a criminal alien, they most likely wouldn't serve a day. And the victim would be made to apologize for "white privilege".
This is literally one of the most ridiculous, asinine things I have ever read in my life.

You really think a black male would've gotten a lighter sentence for raping an unconscious white girl?

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Old 06-04-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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This sentence is a slap in the face of the victim.

Of course jail would have a severe impact on the rapist, as it should. IMO, this POS got off way too lightly. There was some favoritism going on.

Kudos to the witnesses riding by on bicycles for stopping him and holding him down until officers arrived.
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