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Old 06-07-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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Wow! Absolutely ridiculous. Is this still the United States?
You probably have no knowledge what these groups are standing for. Complete anti-Semitism as we have seen at USF as their statements are solely against Israel and not against Countries who violate human/women rights like there are many Countries who do that.

I have seen an hour long tape of a BDS protesters holding a speech which was disgusting to watch and hear what was said at USF in Tampa.

It was great that Rick Scott signed a bill against BDS and what they tried to do against the College investments.
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Old 06-07-2016, 10:06 AM
 
Location: NJ/NYC
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How is boycotting a foreign nation racist, that is a company's right.


Do you recall the South African Boycotts, the protest by BDS is relative to Israeli occupation of Palestinian lands and human rights violations.
"Palestinian lands"

No such thing.

If BDS wants to boycott Israel fine, but surely states could then vote to boycott those boycotting Israel.

You cant justify one boycott but not the other. That is unless you are an irrational Israel hater, which there are many.
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Old 06-07-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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"Palestinian lands"

No such thing.

If BDS wants to boycott Israel fine, but surely states could then vote to boycott those boycotting Israel.

You cant justify one boycott but not the other. That is unless you are an irrational Israel hater, which there are many.
Yes those are not Palestinian lands, just Israel Occupied Territory


I was speaking to the South African and Israeli boycotts, the Israeli boycotts were not performed by government institutions. You are taking it one step further to a government boycott of a boycott.

This is rather unusual for states to go their own way, but it makes sense since both Florida and NY have a large Jewish and pro-Israel Population and Rick Scott and Cuomo want to pander to their constituency.


Yes anyone who supports free speech must be an Israeli hater.
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Old 06-07-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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Yes those are not Palestinian lands, just Israel Occupied Territory


I was speaking to the South African and Israeli boycotts, the Israeli boycotts were not performed by government institutions. You are taking it one step further to a government boycott of a boycott.

This is rather unusual for states to go their own way, but it makes sense since both Florida and NY have a large Jewish and pro-Israel Population and Rick Scott and Cuomo want to pander to their constituency.


Yes anyone who supports free speech must be an Israeli hater.


using your logic and knowing the actual facts of the BDS charter means that anyone who adopts the BDS nonsense is pandering to hamass and terrorists.

Israel has negotiated peace with Jordan and Egypt. Negotiating for peace requires TWO parties, not only one giving up everything and getting NOTHING in return. Palestinians have proven time and again that peace is not their objective.
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Old 06-07-2016, 01:53 PM
 
Location: College Hill
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The protest is anti-Semitism, period. Israel has not just a right, but a responsibility, to protect its citizens from Palestinian animals slaughtering Israeli people and launching missiles into their cities. No reason for NYS, or any other American, to do business with these bigots.
First we need to understand why the BDS movement exists and why they advocate boycotting Israeli companies and academic institutions. The boycott's purpose is born out of frustration with the government of the Zionist government's unending war against Palestinian civilians and because Israel is an apartheid state.

Then we need to understand why Cuomo wants to punish citizens of his own state for boycotting Israeli companies. Anyone want to guess why? Anyone?

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With the largest population of Jewish residents outside Israel, New York has outsize symbolic, and political, value in the debate over the Middle East. For his part, Mr. Cuomo has shown increased willingness in recent years to get involved in international issues, including a short trip to Israel in 2014 with a state delegation.

Mr. Cuomo’s signed the executive order just before he marched in the Celebrate Israel parade in New York.
Gee, that's a lot of potential voters... for Cuomo! That's a lot of campaign contributions from Zionists, both in Israel and America... for Cuomo.

Andrew Cuomo is one of the most unpleasant and vindictive pols in America. A DINO, he would feel much more at home governing a dictatorship.

Among those who would be punished by Rabbi Cuomo are:

o The Presbyterian Church. They became the most prominent religious group in the US to endorse divestment as a protest against Israeli policies toward Palestinians, voting to sell church stock in three companies whose products Israel uses in the occupied territories.

o New York Affiliated Quakers: want to divest their pension funds from firms that work with the Israeli military.

o Cornell University: voted to end academic assistance to universities in Israel that conduct weapons research for the Israeli government.

And right wingers support Cuomo because they like the extremism of the Likud government, which in many ways is a mirror image of the GOP. Conservatives "say" boycotts don't work and they want the boycotting of Israel to stop.

But, seems to me the right wingers in America change their tune when it comes to boycotting American companies that disagree with their primitive social and political beliefs.

Just take a look at the number of companies the American Taliban are or have recently boycotted, and the reasons for them:

Starbucks:

From the AFA: "We are urging customers across the globe to â€Dump Starbucks’ because it has taken a corporate-wide position that the definition of marriage between one man and one woman should be eliminated and that same-sex marriage should become equally â€normal’. As such, Starbucks has deeply offended at least half its US customers, and the vast majority of its international customers.

Target: their boycott in response to a decision made by the retailer this week to allow transgender employees and customers to use bathrooms that correlate with their gender identity.

Google: for supporting marriage equality

Disney: for funding studies on climate change, supports marriage equality, contributes money for birth control in Africa.

Home Depot: HD supports marriage equality, funds scientific studies on climate change, supports pro-choice politicians, not sufficiently enthusiastic about allowing guns in its stores.l

Kellogg’s: Supports Planned Parenthood, insufficiently pro-gun.

AARP – AARP supported Obamacare.

Amazon.com: Founder/CEO donated $2.5 million to same-sex marriage campaign in WA

American Apparel – Clothing (100% political contributions to democrats, ads featuring porn stars, Gay Pride parades)*

Apple: Electronics (98% political contributions to democrats)*

Barnes & Noble – Retailer (98% political contributions to democrats)*

Bed, Bath & Beyond - Retailer (97% political contributions to democrats)*

Best Buy – Electronics (Supports the Council of Islamic-American Relations, which supports Hamas & Muslim Brotherhood)*

Ben & Jerry’s – Ice Cream (100% political contributions to democrats, supporter of many far-left causes; ie: TrueMajority)*

Cablevision – Television (96% political contributions to democrats; 2010)**

Citgo - Gas (100% owned by Hugo Chavez’s anti-American, socialist, Venezuelan government)*

Costco – Retailer (99% political contributions to democrats, Founder/CEA spoke at 2012 Democrat National Convention)*

Crate & Barrel – Housewares (83% political contributions to democrats, financial proponent for gay agenda)*

Diamond Resorts/DRI – Hospitality (98% political contrib. to dems; 2008, 2012)*

Dick's Sporting Goods - (Opponent of second amendment, denying delivery of ordered protected firearms)*

Unilever (Dove, Hellman’s, Lipton): *93% political contrib. to dems, financial supporter of gay agenda)*

E. & J. Gallo Winery Wine: (93% political contrib. to dems, including top contributor to Nancy Pelosi)*

Estee Lauder Companies
– Beauty: 91% political contrib. to dems, financial supporter of gay agenda)

Foot Locker – Athletic Apparel: 100% of political contrib. to dems; 2008*

Gap – Clothing (85% political contrib. to dems; 2012)*

General Electric – Conglomerate (owner of far-left msnbc. #1 lobbying co. Supporter of cap & trade and obamacare. (link tracking not allowed)/fBxjmO. CEO/Chairman is close friend of Obama’s and for 3 years in a row has paid $0 in taxes despite billions in profit)*

General Motors – Automobiles (Billions of wasted taxpayer dollars in ”bailout")*

Goldman Sachs – Investment Bank (Top 2008 contributor to obama. Complicate with dems in 2008 financial crisis)*

Hess Corporation - Gas (98% political donations to democrats)*

IAC/InterActiveCorp (About.com, Ask.com, Match.com, etc: *100% political contrib. to dems; 2012*

JCP/JCPenney – Clothing (financial supporter of gay agenda)*

Levi Strauss - Clothing (100% political contrib. to dems; 2008 & 2012)*

Komen’s – Breast Cancer Awareness (Donates much of their received contributions to Planned Parenthood)*

Netflix – Streaming Media (99% political contrib. to dems; 2008, 2012)*

Oreo’s (Kraft Foods)* Because it is "proud supporter” of gay agenda)

Progressive – Insurance (99% political contrib. to dems; 2008, 2012. Chairman Peter Lewis has donated $15M to the ACLU, $10M to socialist-left political PAC’s MoveOn.org & America Coming Together (ACT)*

Sonic Corp. – Restaurant (96% political contrib. to dems; 2008, 2012)*

Starwood (Sheraton, Westin, W, etc: Financial supporter of Planned Parenthood**

Gee, seems the right wingers were against boycotts before they were for it! They don't want boycotts of right wing allies in Israel, but they sure do want boycotts of American companies that disagree with right wing ideology. Sort of makes one's head spin, what with their usual hypocrisy.
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Old 06-07-2016, 02:02 PM
 
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"Palestinian lands"

No such thing.

If BDS wants to boycott Israel fine, but surely states could then vote to boycott those boycotting Israel.

You cant justify one boycott but not the other. That is unless you are an irrational Israel hater, which there are many.
certainly no shortage of them here either. it's amazing how many low information hamas kissers are on CD.

hilarious that the boycotters are calling foul now that they're being boycotted!! lol

you can't even make this stuff up
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Old 06-07-2016, 03:48 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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using your logic and knowing the actual facts of the BDS charter means that anyone who adopts the BDS nonsense is pandering to hamass and terrorists.

Israel has negotiated peace with Jordan and Egypt. Negotiating for peace requires TWO parties, not only one giving up everything and getting NOTHING in return. Palestinians have proven time and again that peace is not their objective.
So what has been Israel's latest solution, more settlements. How does that resolve the problem, every president since Carter has taken issue with them. They are in a position of power and the right wing in Israel think they can bomb their way to peace, comparing the Palestinians to Egypt, please.


So the state governments are going to now pick and choose to boycott companies that refuse to do business with foreign powers, we are blazing new territory here.
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Old 06-07-2016, 04:16 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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certainly no shortage of them here either. it's amazing how many low information hamas kissers are on CD.

hilarious that the boycotters are calling foul now that they're being boycotted!! lol

you can't even make this stuff up
They are not taking the time to research BDS before actually posting. BDS starts boycotts of companies who do business with Israel or have a location in the WB. They use any non-violent means to push their agendas forward. This includes smear campaigns and protesting in numerous fashions. BDS is against Israel and does nothing positive for the Palestinian citizens. Take SodaStream for example. They were attacked by BDS because it was Israeli owned (21% of it's stock) and had one of it's eleven factories in the West Bank. A few months ago they got what they wanted. SodaStream out of the West Bank. What they left out in educating their sheeple was it was built in the WB due to the requests of the international body since no Arab business from any other country would invest in the WB. SodaStream closed the factory in the WB and nearly 1000 Palestinian citizens lost their jobs in which they were paid the same wages as Israelis. SodaStream built a new factory south of the WB near a Bedouin area and now they have their jobs.
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Old 06-07-2016, 04:17 PM
 
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So what has been Israel's latest solution, more settlements. How does that resolve the problem, every president since Carter has taken issue with them. They are in a position of power and the right wing in Israel think they can bomb their way to peace, comparing the Palestinians to Egypt, please.


So the state governments are going to now pick and choose to boycott companies that refuse to do business with foreign powers, we are blazing new territory here.
you conveniently skip over EVERY SINGLE negotiation process between Israel and the PA, which led to Israel giving up Gaza, and Palestinians getting more militant every year.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel..._peace_process (scroll to "attempts to make peace")

mind you, hamas governs all of Gaza and their charter calls for the destruction of Israel. They will never accept or recognize Israel. So who exactly is Israel negotiating with here, the Palestinians under PA rule only? what a freaking joke.

I post all of this despite the fact that all of this has been argued AD NAUSEAM on city data. Probably about 56,789 times. it's not my fault you only absorb what you want.
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Old 06-07-2016, 04:38 PM
 
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They are not taking the time to research BDS before actually posting. BDS starts boycotts of companies who do business with Israel or have a location in the WB. They use any non-violent means to push their agendas forward. This includes smear campaigns and protesting in numerous fashions. BDS is against Israel and does nothing positive for the Palestinian citizens. Take SodaStream for example. They were attacked by BDS because it was Israeli owned (21% of it's stock) and had one of it's eleven factories in the West Bank. A few months ago they got what they wanted. SodaStream out of the West Bank. What they left out in educating their sheeple was it was built in the WB due to the requests of the international body since no Arab business from any other country would invest in the WB. SodaStream closed the factory in the WB and nearly 1000 Palestinian citizens lost their jobs in which they were paid the same wages as Israelis. SodaStream built a new factory south of the WB near a Bedouin area and now they have their jobs.
BDS has festered university campuses all over the US and Europe (Canada too). What they call a "non violent protest" includes harassing Jewish students and mobbing/stopping/throwing chairs to break through barriers at any speaker who has ever had a tie to Israel.

Every single anti-semitic incident (A LOT!) that takes place in universities directly ties back to BDS.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/commentar...mitic-campuses
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