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Old 06-08-2016, 01:46 PM
Status: "Elect a clown? Expect a circus!" (set 5 days ago)
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Originally Posted by pknopp View Post
It very well may have happened anyway but you would think that one that said the things Eisenhower said would have known better. It seems not.
I wish I could find the clip but so far it remains elusive, some months ago 60 Minutes ran an audio clip of a phone conversation between LBJ and McGeorge Bundy, the gist of it was LBJ basically admitting he didn't think going to war there was a good idea but was going to do it anyway. At least Eisenhower didn't get us in too deep, after trying to find a reasonable explanation for 50 years I still come up empty and LBJ remains IMO one of the worst villains of my lifetime.

Old 06-08-2016, 03:14 PM
Location: Ohio
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Originally Posted by SageCats View Post
Please read this article.

"In a radio broadcast, Cohen referred to critical questions Trump alone had raised. Among them: why is the United States "everywhere on the globe"? What is NATO's true mission? Why does the US always pursue regime change in Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine? Why does Washington treat Russia and Vladimir Putin as an enemy?
I've explained this a hundred times. You have a game-plan. The technical term for your game-plan is Geo-Political Strategy.

Imagine that one day you could fly to Tripoli (Libya), then rent a car and drive to Vladivostok (Russia) via Cairo (Egypt), Tehran (Iran), Tashkent (Uzbekistan) and see nothing but McDonald's and Starsux.

That is your game-plan. That's been your game-plan since about 1976 or so.

You've invested $TRILLIONS and waste thousands of American lives already in furtherance of your goal, which is starting to come together at a faster rate.

The first thing you need to do is find a pretense to maintain a military presence indefinitely in the Middle East. That was the 1991 Persian Gulf War and the establishment of a No-Fly Zone in Iraq, which led to the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Regime change made sure Saddam would not ally with Russia.

The second thing you need to do is deny the Russians the use of any airbases or naval facilities in the Mediterranean Sea Region.

Yugoslavia castrated: Check
Libya regime change: Check
Tunisia regime change: Check
Syria regime change: In Progress

Once you've ousted Assad in Syria and taken control, which means Russia will never be able to base aircraft in Syria again or port ships in Syria, you'll move on Iran.

The most likely way you'll move on Iran is by backing the independence of the Balochs in Baluchistan. The ancient kingdom of Baluchistan's former territory has part in Pakistan, part in Iran and part in Afghanistan.

When the US takes control of Baluchistan, it will oust the Chinese who use and operate the Gwadar Port (a major coup for the US).

Once there's an independent Baluchistan carved out of Pakistan, the US will start arming the Iranian Balochs, foment revolution, then recognize their independence and union with Baluchistan, then probably establish a No-Fly Zone to protect the Balochs from Iranian military forces, so that the US can maintain an indefinite presence in the Persian Gulf/Indian Ocean Region.

That will allow the US to exert its hegemony over Central Asia, regaining control of Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan, Turkmenistan and Tajikistan.

Once the US controls at least three of those 5 Central Asia States, the US can start arming ethnic groups in the eastern Russian republics, foment revolution, and then attempt to block any response by Russia, so that the US gains control of eastern Russia.

Ukraine will either remain as a "buffer-State" between NATO and Russia, or will be absorbed into NATO. In any event, Ukraine will probably be used as a base for No-Fly Zone operations in eastern Russia.

If Hillary is elected, you can rest assured she will step up operations against Syria to oust Assad to prepare the US to move on Iran.

Watch what happens.
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