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Old 06-11-2016, 03:36 PM
 
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A show that aired from 1998 to 2000 called Histeria had many theme songs, and the one about invasions stuck with me and relates to this topic. And keep in mind that if a small tribal battle a few thousand years ago had gone the other way...most people alive today would have never been born.


The Invasion Song, first stanza
Several million years ago a prehistoric man
Discovered that his neighbor had a nicer piece of land,
So he invaded, confiscated, that's how countries grew
Since that attack we now look back at who's invaded who...
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Old 06-11-2016, 04:09 PM
 
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The only people that should apologize is the weak leaders that lost to their people.. Other than that, no apologies required or desired..
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Old 06-11-2016, 06:55 PM
 
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Come on, the limeys haven't ever apologized for the Cap Arcona sinking or teaching the world what a concentration camp is for why should they apologize for some indians
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Old 06-11-2016, 07:02 PM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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Muslims should also apologize to Europe. Millions of European Christians were kidnapped and brought to North Africa and the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans depopulated whole parts of Eastern Europe. Because Islam allows slavery but forbids enslaving a fellow Muslims they went after Europe and nearby parts of Africa. Even 700 American citizens were hold captive, which led to the Barbary Wars.

Bottom line is in history the victors are rarely nice to the weaker peoples they subdue. I have no problem with a country that wants to own up to what they did and apologize, at the same time understand that humans have been committing atrocities against each other since the beginning. In our DNA we all have the blood of the aggressors and the victims of those conflicts.
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Old 06-11-2016, 07:30 PM
 
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The American Government apologized to Native Americans (particularly Cherokees) For the Removal of Indians in the 1800s as well as the taking of Hawaii.

Spain and The Netherlands Also apologies to Nayive Ametican Groups.


But one who (as far as I know) who has never apologize for Crimes it made against the Imdians are The British. The British Government should apologize for the Crimes it made against Native Americans during it 170 Years Rule including Thr Killimg off and Assimilation of The Indians and for the destruction of it heritage.

Why would anyone alive today have to apologize for what dead people did? We are only responsible for our own actions.
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Old 06-11-2016, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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It is a good rule in life never to apologize. The right sort of people do not want apologies, and the wrong sort take a mean advantage of them.

--------- P. G. Wodehouse
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Old 06-11-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The American Government apologized to Native Americans (particularly Cherokees) For the Removal of Indians in the 1800s as well as the taking of Hawaii.

Spain and The Netherlands Also apologies to Nayive Ametican Groups.


But one who (as far as I know) who has never apologize for Crimes it made against the Imdians are The British. The British Government should apologize for the Crimes it made against Native Americans during it 170 Years Rule including Thr Killimg off and Assimilation of The Indians and for the destruction of it heritage.

That is water under the bridge. I need no apology, for anything that didn't harm or steal from me today.
That just creates a victim, where none exist.
Raised to be a victim of your own identity, as only government can twist it to make a buck.
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Old 06-11-2016, 07:40 PM
 
Location: USA
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Muslims should also apologize to Europe. Millions of European Christians were kidnapped and brought to North Africa and the Ottoman Empire. The Ottomans depopulated whole parts of Eastern Europe. Because Islam allows slavery but forbids enslaving a fellow Muslims they went after Europe and nearby parts of Africa. Even 700 American citizens were hold captive, which led to the Barbary Wars. .
You will never hear them appologize. They should considering Muhammad created 1400 years of institutionalized slavery and the first major colonization of Africa.
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Old 06-13-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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The American Government apologized to Native Americans (particularly Cherokees) For the Removal of Indians in the 1800s as well as the taking of Hawaii.

Spain and The Netherlands Also apologies to Nayive Ametican Groups.


But one who (as far as I know) who has never apologize for Crimes it made against the Imdians are The British. The British Government should apologize for the Crimes it made against Native Americans during it 170 Years Rule including Thr Killimg off and Assimilation of The Indians and for the destruction of it heritage.
Definitely a move back to the Great Rift Valley for all of humanity is in order. Then we can sort out who belongs where. How's that for a start? {/ sarcasm]

All sarcasm aside, when primitive cultures meet more advanced cultures generally tragedy ensues. There's just no good way around that. The tragedy of the Europeans' move into the Americas and Australia was enhanced by the lack of resistance of the natives to exotic diseases such as smallpox. I read a book called 1491which details the spread of the smallpox virus from DeSoto's original Florida landing far and wide. This decimated the native populations far ahead of the arrival of permanent settlers. Thus by the time of the arrival of the Pilgrims at Plymouth Rock 95% of the natives were already dead. Ditto Mexico and South America, as well as Australia. By contrast, the natives on the contiguous African-European-Asian continent were not felled by diseases and thus European settlements remain embattled outposts. Think Bombay, Hong Kong, Johannesburg and Cape Town. While the slave trade and other developments caused some disruptions there was no profound European takeover of these lands.

The European advanced cultures, then, do not owe an apology to the less advanced cultures they superseded.
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Old 06-13-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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When will Mexico apologize?
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