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I've seen many who love the question or difficulty defining assault weapons, in particular when it comes to banning the sale of such weapons. Occurs to me that one definition is any weapon that allows one person to do what this nut-with-a-gun did in Florida, though it seems he had more than just an AR-15...
ORLANDO, Fla. — A gunman killed 50 people and wounded 53 in a crowded gay nightclub in Orlando early Sunday, officials said, in the worst mass shooting slaughter in American history, and law enforcement officials called it an act of terrorism.
The gunman was Omar Mir Seddique Mateen, 29, an American citizen living in Port St. Lucie, Fla., federal law enforcement officials said.
The killer stormed the Pulse nightclub armed with an AR-15-style assault rifle
So, he managed to kill 50 people and injure 53 with that? It must have taken hundreds of rounds…that's quite some trigger finger he's got.
It would have been easier that way. If he went full auto unable to hold an aiming sight as the weapon kicked I doubt if gets a 100 hits without firing many times that many rounds, assuming he was able to carry them all in.
People anxious to write gun laws know little about them, IGNORANT/ or deliberately abusive .
The government is after complying with un agenda 21 . if you bother to read it you will understand the root of all the gun issue along with many other things.
I have a relative that is all for it ,not realizing that she may well be one of them that is eliminated in the process.
Point is these shootings could have been averted but the FBI choose not to. not letting any tragedy go to waste , even if they have to create one . the facts are right there the FBI knew the shooter his connections and did nothing.
To the OP, An assault weapon is any weapon use to assault some one else. a hammer ,saw, tooth pick, pipe wrench ,pipe, candle holder, fist, pen, Obama, Hillary,,,,
Not correct. The military version of the AR15 is fully automatic and magazine fed, making it an assault rifle.
The civilian version of the AR15 can be very easily modified to full automatic, turning it into an assault rifle.
How easy?
Run us thru the steps.
Not everyone owns a Bridgeport mill, to make a new lower
This has been explained to you MANY time on other "gun" threads.
Either you are unable to learn or just stubborn.
Foul! Yes, of course I've read all versions of how an assault weapon may be defined, and I have heard all argument both pro and con as to the worthiness of efforts to ban such a weapon. Point at any comment I have written anywhere that suggests I don't well understand all of this...
In fact, the point of this thread is to generally raise the question as to whether ANY weapon might be so defined and/or banned that can kill so many people in such a short period of time. Needless to say, as also pointed out in this thread again, there are many such weapons already in the hands of all too many people to think any ban can really keep a nut case with such a weapon from doing what this one did in Florida, but if this keeps up, I can only guess what measures may be taken to keep these sorts of weapons from being sold.
Do I think there is an answer or solution that will effectively prevent another such act of terrorism with such a weapon in America, frankly no. Are there rightful questions as to why in America unlike any of the other advanced countries in the world? I think so.
Does this mean I don't know or understand all aspects of the gun-control debate? Hardly!
An assault weapon is a select fire weapon of medium power such as 223 or 7.62x39 that was first brought on the scene when late in WW2 the Germans created the sturmgewehr 44 chambered in 8mm mauser short. It had a select fire, that is it can be switched from full auto to semi auto by the flick of a switch. No gun currently on sale or in the past in the USA has ever been an assault weapon. The Current and past configuration of the AR15 and AK47 is and was Semi auto. All assault weapons were and are under NFA rules and the pool of new ones entering into the pool of assault weapons that can be bought by citizens was closed by Reagan in 86. The price to transfer one is 200 for the tax stamp about a 6 month wait and the cost due to the limited supply is in the many thousands of dollars. What you have in an AR or variant is a semi auto rifle that works no different than the M1 Garand, Remington 7400 and other civilian rifles. It just looks like the Current and past Military rifles. There is no auto sear in them or the rest of the parts to make them full auto or burst, shooting 3 rounds before resetting. Its like having a Corvette with a 4 banger, It may look like it will do 60 in a short time but its looks only not the same where it matters.
This is why the assault weapons ban failed in 94 and has failed in Cal. today. Because the guns work the same as guns not banned, I.E. banning an AR but not banning a Ruger Mini 14 is because your have to resort to banning looks. I.E. pistol grip, Bayonet lug ect. Liberals trying to make the world safe by touchy feely BS.
when someone is murdered by Muslims in Tel Aviv, its because of Israeli occupation. When people in the US are murdered by Muslims, it's the NRA's fault. When they're murdered in Paris, it's because of Islamic terrorism.
Didn't expect this issue to be introduced here, but not a surprise given that some people are as obsessed with their religion and/or heritage as others are with their guns, but just curious..., what are the Palestinians killed by Israelis called?
Foul! Yes, of course I've read all versions of how an assault weapon may be defined, and I have heard all argument both pro and con as to the worthiness of efforts to ban such a weapon. Point at any comment I have written anywhere that suggests I don't well understand all of this...
In fact, the point of this thread is to generally raise the question as to whether ANY weapon might be so defined and/or banned that can kill so many people in such a short period of time. Needless to say, as also pointed out in this thread again, there are many such weapons already in the hands of all too many people to think any ban can really keep a nut case with such a weapon from doing what this one did in Florida, but if this keeps up, I can only guess what measures may be taken to keep these sorts of weapons from being sold.
Do I think there is an answer or solution that will effectively prevent another such act of terrorism with such a weapon in America, frankly no. Are there rightful questions as to why in America unlike any of the other advanced countries in the world? I think so.
Does this mean I don't know or understand all aspects of the gun-control debate? Hardly!
So you are, again, just posting a question to argue a political point?
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