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Old 06-13-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Maine
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if someone is flagged by the FBI not once, butt TWICE, at the very least, he loses his right for ___ years to buy a gun. I can see once being a mistake, but not 2x.

I'm sure there will be more coming out about this in the days/weeks/months to come.
How about if you are being investigated by the FBI you also lose other rights, free speech, right to worship, right to say run for public office?
Do you really believe that our Constitutional rights should be at the whim of Government bureaucrats?



bill
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:30 AM
 
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do you know a single thing about guns or gun laws? your post indicates that no is the answer.

here's a hint - there are THOUSANDS of gun laws already. AK47's are already illegal. I really wish you people would learn our current laws before commenting.
Sigh, "like" doesn't mean the same as, it means similar to.

I already know there are gun laws. My point was that we should review current gun laws, study in different locales/states the effect these laws have on those areas, and on a federal level implement additional tightening of restrictions, especially in regards to not allowing terroristic sympathizers to buy weapons "like" AK-47s, such as AR-15 and other assault rifles.

ETA: The NRA and people like you are preventing the common sense thinking on gun laws mentioned above. Any mention of restrictions draws from your ilk an illogical response. All sorts of products are reviewed and safety measures are put in place all the time to keep up with society and in response to situations that kill people on a mass scale. Guns should be no different.
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:31 AM
 
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How about if you are being investigated by the FBI you also lose other rights, free speech, right to worship, right to say run for public office?
Do you really believe that our Constitutional rights should be at the whim of Government bureaucrats?



bill
you lose your right to vote if you go to prison. so why not the right to bear arms? if you're mentally unstable, you shouldn't have that right.
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:32 AM
 
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Sigh, "like" doesn't mean the same as, it means similar to.

I already know there are gun laws. My point was that we should review current gun laws, study in different locales/states the effect these laws have on those areas, and on a federal level implement additional tightening of restrictions, especially in regards to not allowing terroristic sympathizers to buy weapons "like" AK-47s, such as AR-15 and other assault rifles.

ETA: The NRA and people like you are preventing the common sense thinking on gun laws mentioned above. Any mention of restrictions draws from your ilk an illogical response. All sorts of products are reviewed and safety measures are put in place all the time to keep up with society and in response to situations that kill people on a mass scale. Guns should be no different.
is that a fact? read my other posts on this thread?
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Gun owners are screened for 3 days, refugees are screened for almost 2 years.
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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Gun owners are screened for 3 days, refugees are screened for almost 2 years.
what's the vetting process? is it just checking ID? if we have a vetting process in place that worth a dime, how does an accused war criminal end up working security in Dulles airport?

An accused war criminal now works security at a U.S. airport - CNN.com

our gov't can't run ANYTHING properly.
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:38 AM
 
Location: Central NJ and PA
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If someone raises enough red flags to warrant 2 investigations by the FBI that person should forever be on their radar. We cannot violate that persons rights unless they are found to be guilty of something but buying a high powered rifle should have sent a message that something was up.

But lots of people buy "high powered rifles" (though I'd argue that the AR-15 doesn't fit that category), and they're not going to be used in this manner.


We're guaranteed freedom of religion and speech. We have the right to keep and bear arms. It would be a mistake to get rid of these rights, so where is the line? I suggested travel to the Middle East, in addition to the FBI investigations, but maybe that wouldn't be right, either.


One thing that seems to be clear is that these kind of attacks aren't going to magically stop.
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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I know what would make me feels safer is stricter regulations on Hillary
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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what's the vetting process? is it just checking ID? if we have a vetting process in place that worth a dime, how does an accused war criminal end up working security in Dulles airport?

An accused war criminal now works security at a U.S. airport - CNN.com

our gov't can't run ANYTHING properly.
The vetting of refugees has in fact worked well, gun owners not so much.


Trump should be asking for stricter gun laws not immigration policy.
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Old 06-13-2016, 07:40 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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These murders of gays by an Islamic terrorist weren't the gun's fault. We know restrictive gun laws don't work. That data is available for anyone who cares to research it. These murders were caused by an ideologically flawed Muslim fanatic who hated Americans, gays, our way of life.

This tragedy has shown me that progressives, in ranking priority of their identity groups, rank Muslims above gays. The liberal press and the liberal politicians, including President Obama and Hillary Clinton, have said "We just don't know what the shooter's motivation could possibly be!" Nonsense.

Protecting Muslims is more important than defending the lives of gays to our Progressive politicians and the liberal press. I find that terribly sad, not to mention dangerous for these gay Americans.
I think you've hit on a big point! This should set the LBGT communities hair on fire that they're ranked BELOW Muslims in minority preference and protections.

Our leaders (such as they are) should've made a point to call out radical muslims who's sole mission is to kill those who are different from them, especially people in the LBGT community.

How in hell can anyone in the LBGT community still support those that openly pander/bow/scrape to those that would see them dead by any means possible?
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