Chicago homicides YTD: 277 (terrorism, education, vs, states)
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But what accounts for relatively low murder rates in states with lax gun laws?
Something to consider. Virginia has weak gun laws. And yet, there are no cities in that state with a murder rate as high as Newark. If gun laws are lax in Virginia, but strict in New Jersey, but most cities in Virginia have a relatively stable murder rate, then what is causing that? Why isn't there more bloodshed taking place in Virginia? Newark recorded 104 murders in 2015. Richmond,VA, however,
Richmond murder rate = 18.1 murders per 100,000
Newark murder rate = 36.8 murders per 100,000
Chicago murder rate = 17.9 murders per 100,000
Houston, in the state of Texas where guns are easy to get, had a murder rate of 12.3 murders per 100,000.
Yes, but Texas, Indiana and Virginia all have higher rates of gun related deaths than both Illinois and New Jersey, while also being the source of guns for the latter two. Typically, states with more gun control laws have fewer gun related deaths.
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In conclusion, we found an association between the legislative strength of a state's firearm laws—as measured by a higher number of laws—and a lower rate of firearm fatalities. The association was significant for firearm fatalities overall and for firearm suicide and firearm homicide deaths, individually.
In summation, places with higher levels of gun ownership are places with higher homicide rates. Most studies, cross sectional or time series, international or domestic, are consistent with the hypothesis that higher levels of gun prevalence substantially increase the homicide rate.
We found that across US regions and states, and for virtually every age group, higher rates of household firearm ownership were associated with higher rates of homicide.
this b.s. that gun laws will reduce crime is ridiculous.
"Firearm deaths are significantly lower in states with stricter gun control legislation. Though the sample sizes are small, we find substantial negative correlations between firearm deaths and states that ban assault weapons (-.45), require trigger locks (-.42), and mandate safe storage requirements for guns (-.48)."
Yes, but Texas, Indiana and Virginia all have higher rates of gun related deaths than both Illinois and New Jersey, while also being the source of guns for the latter two. Typically, states with more gun control laws have fewer gun related deaths.
There is a difference between homicides and "gun related deaths".
Your stats include suicides, which are half of the stats, and justifiable homicides by civilians and police.
I always have to smirk when I see posters having a debate about homicide rates and then someone sneaks in stats about "gun related deaths".
There is a difference between homicides and "gun related deaths".
Your stats include suicides, which are half of the stats, and justifiable homicides by civilians and police.
I always have to smirk when I see posters having a debate about homicide rates and then someone sneaks in stats about "gun related deaths".
You don't say. How can one talk about gun violence as a public health issue without including suicides as they pertain to gun related deaths?
Secondly, how much of my response did you manage to read? Again:
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In conclusion, we found an association between the legislative strength of a state's firearm laws—as measured by a higher number of laws—and a lower rate of firearm fatalities. The association was significant for firearm fatalities overall and for firearm suicide and firearm homicide deaths, individually.
Yes, but Texas, Indiana and Virginia all have higher rates of gun related deaths than both Illinois and New Jersey, while also being the source of guns for the latter two. Typically, states with more gun control laws have fewer gun related deaths.
Gun deaths and murder aren't the same thing. Murder is the most imminent danger. Fewer gun deaths does not mean you are safer from someone who wants to kill you. Hunting accidents and suicide make up a large amount of the gun death. Someone's recklessness. I can account for someone's carelessness. I can't control a violent person.
You don't say. How can one talk about gun violence as a public health issue without including suicides as they pertain to gun related deaths?
Secondly, how much of my response did you manage to read? Again:
Suicide is a public health issue. Anything can be used for suicide. Poison, jumping, hanging, cutting. You don't need a gun to commit suicide. Russia is a much harder country to get a gun in. However, it has a much higher suicide rate(among the highest in the world), and a murder rate at least 2 or 3 times higher than the USA. And it has terrorism issues. Last I checked, a suicide bombing took place in one of Moscow's airports.
I just checked Philadelphia's murder rate. Its murder rate has been declining. As of 2014, the murder rate was around 15.9 murders per 100,000. Philly is located in a state where gun laws aren't as strict as its neighbors. Camden, right across the river in New Jersey, has a murder rate 6 times higher than Philadelphia. Trenton, the capital of New Jersey, has a very high murder rate too. Newark too. NYC is held in esteem as being an example of strict guns being a good thing. However, the most murderous cities in NY state are in Upstate NY. Buffalo is the worst. Its murder rate is worse than Chicago.
Chicago's had concealed carry for years now. Oh but that doesn't fit your narrative, sorry.
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