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Old 06-14-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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Amazing the number of people involved in these mass shootings that purchased their guns LEGALLY

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...guns.html?_r=0
In other words, background checks are only really effective in producing paperwork and not preventing these types of crimes.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:37 AM
 
Location: Seymour, CT
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In other words, background checks are only really effective in producing paperwork and not preventing these types of crimes.
In other words, the background checks suck and need to get better.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:48 AM
 
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In other words, the background checks suck and need to get better.
Do you think we could use background checks to stop the use of heroine and cocaine in the US? If not, why?
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:49 AM
 
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Do you think we could use background checks to stop the use of heroine and cocaine in the US? If not, why?
Separate issue, especially considering those drugs are illegal in the first place, there's no point in a response here.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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Separate issue, especially considering those drugs are illegal in the first place, there's no point in a response here.
Here is a ladder and a net.

The point is that even if you completely ban something people who want it will still get it. If the background checks are effective in stopping someone from purchasing a gun through a retailer, the people who want it will procure it through other channels. The Paris terrorists are a good recent example.

More hoops will only mean that those who obey gun laws will need to jump more.

Ok, now give me the ladder and net back. Don't worry, I'll loan them to you again.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:57 AM
 
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Banning certain classes of arms or reclassifying them like machine guns will certainly slow them down a bit, however. And prosecution for all involved in an illegal arms sale.

Six shot maximum capacity and no carry concealed or open would put a serious dent in the ability of someone to shoot a hundred people.
It will do no such thing. They will obtain what is necessary illegally like they did in Paris, like over seas on the black market. Do you honestly think someone who plans on murdering a bunch of people will just say, man, I can only shoot six people because the law says my gun can't hold more than that? If you do you need a mental health check.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:21 AM
 
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Only in the eyes of the GOP
You mean the government report published by the democrat administration?
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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We should have just banned murder!
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:32 AM
 
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It will do no such thing. They will obtain what is necessary illegally like they did in Paris, like over seas on the black market. Do you honestly think someone who plans on murdering a bunch of people will just say, man, I can only shoot six people because the law says my gun can't hold more than that? If you do you need a mental health check.
It will hinder a great number of people. Do you understand the number of people that simply purchased their weapons legally before their mass shooting? Sure, it's not going to stop anyone determined enough, but it will hinder a TON of people from acquiring weapons.

To say that everyone has access to the black market and that everyone even knows where to begin is giving too many people way too much credit! Will tightening gun regulation stop mass shooting completely? NO. Will it cut them down? YES.

5% of the worlds population resides in America and yet we are at 31% of all the mass shootings. Good going. Make sure to arm your toddlers while you're at it, you know... to stop other toddlers from shooting people
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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Murder has become commonplace in the US. Over 400,000 muders since the 1960's. That is more dead than than those lost in all the wars combined. If guns were banned the only thing that would change is the weapon used.
The problem is not guns. It's the people. Our society has degraded to a point we're human life has little value.
With the loss of faith in our police people have turned to arming themselves.
We will see more and more attacks. Sooner or later radicals of one type or another will obtain radioactive materials or a small nuke and destroy and entire area with thousands dying.
For the present, as long as we allow our gun free zones to be targets for radicals and lunatics we will continue to see slaughters.
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