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Old 06-14-2016, 05:48 PM
 
Location: Maine
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So Iv'e been thinking, Here's a new gun law that I think both sides can come to an agreement on.
How about a Federal Mandate making the prosecution of gun laws mandatory, with mandatory sentences, No more plea bargaining away possession by a felon, Rob a store with a gun, full prosecution of ALL charges, etc.

We may need to sweeten the deal on both sides, maybe CCW reciprocity to help alleviate people accidentally crossing a state line with a CW.
We could role out the new law with a big public info campaign, so no one could claim they didn't know

So what do you say.


bill
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:52 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Democrats would never vote for it since it would disproportionally affect minorities.

I have no problem with harsh sentences for actual criminals, not turning millions of Americans into felons by a swipe of a pen.
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Old 06-14-2016, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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So Iv'e been thinking, Here's a new gun law that I think both sides can come to an agreement on.
How about a Federal Mandate making the prosecution of gun laws mandatory, with mandatory sentences, No more plea bargaining away possession by a felon, Rob a store with a gun, full prosecution of ALL charges, etc.

We may need to sweeten the deal on both sides, maybe CCW reciprocity to help alleviate people accidentally crossing a state line with a CW.
We could role out the new law with a big public info campaign, so no one could claim they didn't know

So what do you say.


bill
Terrorists don't care about prosecution because they are martyrs.
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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Terrorists don't care about prosecution because they are martyrs.
It won't stop terrorists but surely as hell will stop gangbangers! That would save a large portion of people murdered each year.

But I know democrats don't give a crap about saving lives.
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:47 PM
 
Location: Port Charlotte, FL - Dallas, PA
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The NRA used to promote a program called Project Exile. From what I recall, a state that passed laws supporting Project Exile meant that there was no pleas and a minimum five year sentence for using a gun in a crime. I think Virginia had it...seems I recall seeing bill boards along I-95 saying something along the lines of, "Do the crime, do the time...five years mandatory sentence" (or something like that).
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Old 06-14-2016, 07:52 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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So Iv'e been thinking, Here's a new gun law that I think both sides can come to an agreement on.
How about a Federal Mandate making the prosecution of gun laws mandatory, with mandatory sentences, No more plea bargaining away possession by a felon, Rob a store with a gun, full prosecution of ALL charges, etc.

We may need to sweeten the deal on both sides, maybe CCW reciprocity to help alleviate people accidentally crossing a state line with a CW.
We could role out the new law with a big public info campaign, so no one could claim they didn't know

So what do you say.


bill

No, each circumstance is individual and different.

Blanket laws catch the innocent too.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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So Iv'e been thinking, Here's a new gun law that I think both sides can come to an agreement on.
How about a Federal Mandate making the prosecution of gun laws mandatory, with mandatory sentences, No more plea bargaining away possession by a felon, Rob a store with a gun, full prosecution of ALL charges, etc.

We may need to sweeten the deal on both sides, maybe CCW reciprocity to help alleviate people accidentally crossing a state line with a CW.
We could role out the new law with a big public info campaign, so no one could claim they didn't know

So what do you say.


bill
That'll never fly...makes too much sense.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:09 PM
 
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The NRA used to promote a program called Project Exile. From what I recall, a state that passed laws supporting Project Exile meant that there was no pleas and a minimum five year sentence for using a gun in a crime. I think Virginia had it...seems I recall seeing bill boards along I-95 saying something along the lines of, "Do the crime, do the time...five years mandatory sentence" (or something like that).
They still do but their proposal gets shot down by democrats almost every time.
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Old 06-14-2016, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Just over the horizon
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So Iv'e been thinking, Here's a new gun law that I think both sides can come to an agreement on.
How about a Federal Mandate making the prosecution of gun laws mandatory, with mandatory sentences, No more plea bargaining away possession by a felon, Rob a store with a gun, full prosecution of ALL charges, etc.

We may need to sweeten the deal on both sides, maybe CCW reciprocity to help alleviate people accidentally crossing a state line with a CW.
We could role out the new law with a big public info campaign, so no one could claim they didn't know

So what do you say.


bill

Put in madatory restorations of 2nd amendment rights for non violent felons after completion of their sentance and I'd go along with it.

There is no reason that people who are deemed safe enough to return to society should be permanently barred from defending themselves and their families.

If they are too dangerous to have a weapon, then they should stay locked up.
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Old 06-14-2016, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Put in madatory restorations of 2nd amendment rights for non violent felons after completion of their sentance and I'd go along with it.

There is no reason that people who are deemed safe enough to return to society should be permanently barred from defending themselves and their families.

If they are too dangerous to have a weapon, then they should stay locked up.
This is sort of off topic, but I believe that once you have served your time, your record should be cleared. Only for non violent crimes.

You did your time, why should you have a ding on your record that would prevent you from getting a job or housing and contributing to society.

This is one of the main reasons people end up back in prison.
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