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Its unrealistic and you're a moron if you believe that a president can ban a specific religion from entering this country. Secondly, how can you prove someone's religion!?
Trump is using that to drum up support. He's playing to the fears of many americans and its working.
Then what do you suggest as an option to try to at least slow down terrorists from coming in from overseas?
Did you read the OP? How is banning Muslims, temporarily or permanently going to prevent terrorist attacks when the last several Muslim rampages in the US were committed by Americans, not foreigners?
Did you read my reply? MINIMIZE, not prevent.
There will continue to be people here who will be converted to join the ISIS cause. Let the FBI concentrate on them and not have to worry about thousands of migrants they've already stated they cannot vet, and who come from countries where killing homosexuals, beheading Muslims and Christians, and stoning women lead to victory laps.
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Did you read the OP? How is banning Muslims, temporarily or permanently going to prevent terrorist attacks when the last several Muslim rampages in the US were committed by Americans, not foreigners?
The latest shooters dad was an immigrant Muslim. He is nutty and should not have been here. Stopping his kind years ago would have prevented Orlando massacre. Stop all immigration now. We have enough conflicting culture now. Hopefully the most sane one will survive.
Then what do you suggest as an option to try to at least slow down terrorists from coming in from overseas?
Easy. Place a temporary ban on any non american traveling here from hostile countries in the middle east until we can get a better system in place to vet these people. You can't ban a religion as you can't prove one's religion but you can place a temporary ban on folks coming from certain regions.
I don't necessarily agree with what he said, but he did answer your question. It won't do anything for domestic terror attacks by home grown terrorists. It could prevent terrorists from coming in. So, his answer to your question is that it probably wouldn't do a whole lot. But it might help.
Thanks, Skepticratic. You got it right. I'll only add that it will do something for domestic terror attacks because it will allow the FBI to solely look at people on their watch list, instead of having to worry about thousands more they have said they are unable to properly vet at this time.
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Exactly. There has to be a line drawn in the sand at one point. You can't just continue on with something that just isn't working and expect the problem to fix itself. No one would take a boat into the ocean with holes in it and expect the boat to remain afloat. You'd find the biggest holes and patch those to try to slow it down until you can figure out a permanent solution. No different here. Some action has to be taken. Doing something is much better than throwing your hands up and saying oh well.
It seems that no matter what group of people you hate, there is always an organization with a leader who advocates that killing these people is okay because they are sinners or infidels anyway. What needs to be banned is not guns or Muslims but the idea that killing those who you hate is okay.
How many right wing fundamentalist Preachers on Sunday morning preached that what those in that club got was the will of God. More than once politicians and preachers advocated praying for the death of the president , that should be banned.
It is also worth mentioning that your typical Radicalized American Muslim comes from a middle class or upper middle class family. IMO These are young people who spend their life in the US doing everything that is expected of them but as they open their eyes they see they are still not accepted by mainstream American society, so they take the path of what ever is the opposite of that. Most shooters are outsiders.
So it's the victims fault because society hasn't embraced the shooter enough for you?
I weep for your parents. I seriously do. You are one messed up person.
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Its unrealistic and you're a moron if you believe that a president can ban a specific religion from entering this country. Secondly, how can you prove someone's religion!?
Trump is using that to drum up support. He's playing to the fears of many americans and its working.
You do know there are Syrian Christians migrating, yes? Nobody is saying take them in and not the Muslims.
Its unrealistic and you're a moron if you believe that a president can ban a specific religion from entering this country. Secondly, how can you prove someone's religion!?
Trump is using that to drum up support. He's playing to the fears of many americans and its working.
Does anyone actually pay attention to what he says?
Here's what he *actually* says:
When I am elected, I will suspend immigration from areas of the world when there is a proven history of terrorism against the United States, Europe or our allies, until we understand how to end these threats.
How do people get "ban Muslims" from that?
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