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View Poll Results: Should we have stricter gun-ownership laws?
Yes 114 28.08%
No 292 71.92%
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Old 05-01-2008, 03:51 AM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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I think it's OK for us to decide what guns laws there will be in the District of Columbia.
All of those rights are subject to limitations imposed by the law. Right now in the District of Columbia, the law say if you're walking around with a gun in your possession, you're going to jail. That's the law and it's not under review. Deal with it.
WHen I was in high school, I was accosted by the police because I had a DRILL rifle in my possession. The officer STOPPED me with his gun drawn and POINTED at me. I was simply carrying it home after school, so that I might practice military drill more at home--like we were TOLD we could do.

Why did the police FEEL the need to STOP me, if we're supposed to have a RIGHT to bear arms??

Please tell me.

 
Old 05-01-2008, 05:46 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Should we have stricter gun-ownership laws?

Gun control zealots need to relax and take a deep breath. The figures show that law abiding gun owners are not a contributor to crime. Restricting gun ownership favors the criminals, who will ignore any restrictions in any case. That said, I see gun control as a state/local issue. There are some sound reasons to control firearms purchases in some localities. But it shouldn't be a federal issue.

NCPA - Crime Issues: Self-Defense & Gun Control (http://www.ncpa.org/iss/cri/i_selfdefense.html - broken link)
 
Old 05-01-2008, 08:06 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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So whats stopping you from deciding who can pray where or who can say what? Ummmmm maybe the constitution? I'm still curious about your metal detectors.
What stops us from infringing on someones religion. We do. Down in Texas they are busy stopping a polygamist sect of Christians from abusing young children in the name of religion.

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Which ones are subject to limitations? None are. Some have penalties if they are abused, such as yelling fire in a theater but NONE require backround checks or are BANNED in entire municipalities.
All rights are subject to restrictions and you got the theater analogy wrong. Justice Holmes didn't say, "If you cry fire in a crowded theater we will punish you." He said you have no right to cry fire in a crowded theater.

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Your law is certainly in review. If its found unreasonable & if its found that a reasonable law must provide a law abiding citizen a way to own & posess a firearm there will be a carry law of some sort. There already is, your city just wont honor it. Thats why they ended up in court, in case you forgot.
A narrow aspect of our law is under review and I think we will have to modify it slightly. Our outright ban of handguns in the home for all people seems unneccesarily broad to me. I suspect we will have to evaluate the application to keep a handgun in the home on a case by case basis. A few people may have a valid reason for keeping a handgun in their house.

You need to read the DC law under review. It only applies to guns in the home. Our restriction on carrying a weapon is not being challenged.
 
Old 05-01-2008, 08:10 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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WHen I was in high school, I was accosted by the police because I had a DRILL rifle in my possession. The officer STOPPED me with his gun drawn and POINTED at me. I was simply carrying it home after school, so that I might practice military drill more at home--like we were TOLD we could do.

Why did the police FEEL the need to STOP me, if we're supposed to have a RIGHT to bear arms??

Please tell me.
Because we empower the police to stop and question people whom they suspect are engaged in illegal conduct. Did the officer subsequently let you go on your way? I wish an officer had stopped and questioned Seung-Hui Cho.
 
Old 05-01-2008, 08:14 AM
 
Location: Minnysoda
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Because we empower the police to stop and question people whom they suspect are engaged in illegal conduct. Did the officer subsequently let you go on your way? I wish an officer had stopped and questioned Seung-Hui Cho.
I wish they wouldn't have been in a gun free zone so someone with a gun could have put him down before he got going...........
 
Old 05-01-2008, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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Gun control zealots need to relax and take a deep breath. The figures show that law abiding gun owners are not a contributor to crime. Restricting gun ownership favors the criminals, who will ignore any restrictions in any case. That said, I see gun control as a state/local issue. There are some sound reasons to control firearms purchases in some localities. But it shouldn't be a federal issue.

NCPA - Crime Issues: Self-Defense & Gun Control (http://www.ncpa.org/iss/cri/i_selfdefense.html - broken link)
Actually the studies show exactly the opposite. Way more gun suicides occur than murders, and you are much more likely to be murdered by an intimate acquaintance in the home than an intruder.

Law abiding gun owners who keep weapons locked up and unloaded in the home aren't the problem. It's the paranoid nut cases who keep a loaded gun handy for "self defense." Someone in the house is three times as likely to die from a gunshot wound if there is a loaded gun kept in the house.
 
Old 05-01-2008, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Washington DC
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I wish they wouldn't have been in a gun free zone so someone with a gun could have put him down before he got going...........
Oh yeah all the school administrators in the country are just clamoring to arm the students. LOL
 
Old 05-01-2008, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Pinal County, Arizona
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It's the paranoid nut cases who keep a loaded gun handy for "self defense."
Then, you must really love those who carry concealed! LOLOLOL
 
Old 05-01-2008, 08:58 AM
 
Location: NY
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Originally Posted by TKramar View Post
WHen I was in high school, I was accosted by the police because I had a DRILL rifle in my possession. The officer STOPPED me with his gun drawn and POINTED at me. I was simply carrying it home after school, so that I might practice military drill more at home--like we were TOLD we could do.

Why did the police FEEL the need to STOP me, if we're supposed to have a RIGHT to bear arms??

Please tell me.
Because of all the unconstitutional anti-gun laws currently in effect! This is what we gun owners have been trying to get over to you anti's. If all the anti-gun hysteria would stop and folks could legally carry as the Constitution says, you never would have been stopped. When I was in Wyoming it was common to see people at a gas station or stop n shop type place standing around in the parking lot admiring a new gun one or the other bought. No one even looked twice. THIS is how it should be, not everyone panicking any time they even suspect someone has a gun.
 
Old 05-01-2008, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Bradenton, Florida
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Because we empower the police to stop and question people whom they suspect are engaged in illegal conduct. Did the officer subsequently let you go on your way? I wish an officer had stopped and questioned Seung-Hui Cho.
Oh, come now...it's IN the Constitution, isn't it? It IS a right to bear arms...isn't that what the thread is about?

Yes, once he discovered that the "weapon" was filled with LEAD through the ENTIRE barrel, and the action DIDN'T operate, I was free to go.
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