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Old 06-17-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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-ban sales of new high capacity magazines and semi-automatic rifles
-no confiscation, but reselling of weapons that fall under those categories is illegal and a felony

It's very simple. It won't stop all shootings, but it's something, and will definitely reduce casualties in the long run. Cue the gun nut with his encyclopedic knowledge of this and that...we don't give an F and obviously you don't either. The guy in the Orlando shooting would have had to buy his gun illegally and both he and the person selling to him would be felons. Yes, that is a deterrent.

"Everybody wants to reduce mass shootings" unless it affects their ability to collect deadly toys. Let's say it correctly.
So, once your above "common sense" laws are enacted, you will be satisfied? You won't be back on here after the next mass shooting of unarmed citizens, calling for another "common sense" gun law? Just curious.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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-magazines are not serialized. How do you determine which are pre ban and which are post ban? It's not like a 1 to 1 ratio between magazines and each gun. I have at minimum 2 mags for a gun to a maximum of 100 mags for a gun.
-I'll just give them away. Without registration there will be no way to track the sales. If your law goes into effect today I can still sell my gun tomorrow. There is no way the authorities can prove the it took place after the law was in place.
He knows it won't work.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:26 AM
 
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-magazines are not serialized. How do you determine which are pre ban and which are post ban? It's not like a 1 to 1 ratio between magazines and each gun. I have at minimum 2 mags for a gun to a maximum of 100 mags for a gun.
-I'll just give them away. Without registration there will be no way to track the sales. If your law goes into effect today I can still sell my gun tomorrow. There is no way the authorities can prove the it took place after the law was in place.
Do people think about what they type? If someone sells heroin to someone else, they usually don't get arrested after the sale is complete and the buyer is arrested. They get arrested if caught making the sale. Was that part really difficult to comprehend?
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:26 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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Explain to us the fundamental difference between a M-14 and any semi auto hunting rifle that shoots .308.... There is a great video on youtube I'm not going to look for. They took what was labeled as an assault rifle and made it look like a hunting rifle, they took the hunting rifle and made it look like an assault rifle. There is no fundamental difference between either gun. You're trying to ban something based on looks instead of function.

Take pistols grips for example, is there any legitimate reason I should no be allowed to have something I feel comfortable with handling a gun? It's like banning modern suspensions in cars because people may drive faster while ignoring the fact it makes responsible drivers better drivers.
You are trying to use logic and your audience includes a foaming at the mouth adolescent that is terrified of what is being displayed on tv. An individual you'll never be able to even have a discussion with.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:28 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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So, once your above "common sense" laws are enacted, you will be satisfied? You won't be back on here after the next mass shooting of unarmed citizens, calling for another "common sense" gun law? Just curious.
You can bet your bank account that these "bans" being tossed around won't stop the next mass shooting. The previous bans sure didn't and what is being talked about now is just more of the same.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:31 AM
 
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So, once your above "common sense" laws are enacted, you will be satisfied? You won't be back on here after the next mass shooting of unarmed citizens, calling for another "common sense" gun law? Just curious.

As I've stated, I support the right of people to own guns in their home as long as the types of guns are regulated. That position is supported by the constitution and current law..the constitution says "right to bear arms". It doesn't say "guns" . So guess what, you can't own a grenade launcher..why aren't you fighting that battle tooth and nail? It's a wildly despotic imposition on your right to bear arms just as much as a law saying you can't buy a new semi-auto. Why can't I have an artillery piece? This government is tyrannical. In the context of the times, the no-budge position of gun nuts is even more ridiculous.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:34 AM
 
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You are trying to use logic and your audience includes a foaming at the mouth adolescent that is terrified of what is being displayed on tv. An individual you'll never be able to even have a discussion with.

Foaming at the mouth adolescent ...... "their ain't a gawl darn thing YOU GUYS can do about it" guy with the gun fetish calling names. Funny.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:34 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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As I've stated, I support the right of people to own guns in their home as long as the types of guns are regulated. That position is supported by the constitution and current law..the constitution says "right to bear arms". It doesn't say "guns" . So guess what, you can't own a grenade launcher..why aren't you fighting that battle tooth and nail? It's a wildly despotic imposition on your right to bear arms just as much as a law saying you can't buy a new semi-auto. Why can't I have an artillery piece? This government is tyrannical. In the context of the times, the no-budge position of gun nuts is even more ridiculous.
You can actually have a grenade launcher and an artillery piece.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:36 AM
 
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Yeah........ummmm.....No.

No one from any part of the world has a "right" to immigrate to America.

America, on the other hand, has not only the right but a duty to restrict immigration as it sees fit to enure both the safety of it's citizens and our economic well being.
This is not about a right to immigrate, it's about religious freedom. The Constitution does not define what rights the people have. The Constitution defines what powers the government has. The government does not have the power to make laws regarding "establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof." If Trump tries to base immigration on a person's religion, I'm sure he will be challenged on constitutional grounds.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:39 AM
 
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You can actually have a grenade launcher and an artillery piece.

..but you can't buy grenades. I guess you thought that tiny semantic argument would somehow disprove my point? Why do gun nuts think their encyclopedic knowledge of death and destruction somehow super-cedes every argument made in favor of gun control.

I've made the point about tanks and bazookas to my gun nut friends..and they don't have an answer, because there isn't one. The government already places very severe limits on what arms a person can own relative to what is available...far and away above the founders and their muskets.

Time to just admit: you want your toys and they are more important than other peoples lives.
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