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Old 06-18-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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Another thought, Hillary needs to worry about being "under the house", it happened to the wicked witch in the "Wizard of Oz".

I don't think the Republicans need to worry about anything other than realizing that they lost the last 2 elections, produced 18 candidates this time and 17 fell out of favor quickly and that the writing on the wall is that if they don't make some adjustments to the party they are finished for good. That should give them enough to think about to carry them through until the election in 2020 when if they don't get their act together, they'll try to run Jeb again.
There were much better candidates in the primary than Trump, namely Paul and Cruz (at least IMO). If Trump loses, it doesn't signal the end of the GOP. They said the same thing in '08 and the GOP has gone on to historic gains at the state and local levels.

My suggestion would be someone who presents the largest possible distinction to the big government philosophy of the (D) party. Trump does not embody that, as he's an authoritarian in his own right. Most of the other GOP primary candidates would have had a better chance of beating Clinton than Trump.

 
Old 06-18-2016, 01:00 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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Let's look at it objectively:

If Hillary does win, it is most likely the senate will go Democrat. Normally the new president will bring some coat tail wins and the senate certainly isn't totally one sided GOP: As for, as someone said 65 to 70%, not very likely. As for the house; get real, the chance of it going to the Dems is very slim: the GOP has too strong a hold. There would have to be a huge turn around. It is possible and probably the Dems will pick up seats, again the coat tail effect.

Now to the remark the Tribune is right leaning? Well they used to be, but like most newspapers, they are leaning left more all the time. The L.A.. Times was to the right for a hundred years; not anymore. Also doesn't make any difference: regardless of what side the paper leans, there are always columnists and editors on both sides. Just because someone says such and such, certainly doesn't make it true.
 
Old 06-18-2016, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Caverns measureless to man...
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There were much better candidates in the primary than Trump, namely Paul and Cruz (at least IMO). If Trump loses, it doesn't signal the end of the GOP. They said the same thing in '08 and the GOP has gone on to historic gains at the state and local levels.

My suggestion would be someone who presents the largest possible distinction to the big government philosophy of the (D) party. Trump does not embody that, as he's an authoritarian in his own right. Most of the other GOP primary candidates would have had a better chance of beating Clinton than Trump.
That's the whole problem. Yes, there are Republican politicians who would make credible presidential candidates, and could have presented Hillary with a serious challenge - but the trouble is that the Republican voters do not want them because they are not crazy enough. This is exactly we got to Trump in the first place.

Do you see any reason to believe that's going to change? Because I certainly can't think of any.
 
Old 06-18-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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How many threads are you going to start with this theme?


No matter how many times you post it, it's still Leftist propaganda.
Those are exactly the issued Leftist Talking points that TeamObama, CampClinto, the Political Elite Insiders are issuing to the BOTs & the Media.

Convince all voters that Trump has no chance and HOPE that Citizens will believe it and give up.
This is more about Anti-Voter than Anti-Trump. They fear the Voters who are FED-UP.
 
Old 06-18-2016, 02:18 PM
 
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There were much better candidates in the primary than Trump, namely Paul and Cruz (at least IMO). If Trump loses, it doesn't signal the end of the GOP. They said the same thing in '08 and the GOP has gone on to historic gains at the state and local levels.

My suggestion would be someone who presents the largest possible distinction to the big government philosophy of the (D) party. Trump does not embody that, as he's an authoritarian in his own right. Most of the other GOP primary candidates would have had a better chance of beating Clinton than Trump.
The Primary is OVER for the Republicans. The Political Elite Insiders can choose to steal the Nomination, but they already LOST the Primary to The People's Choice in Historical numbers of Ciitizen Votes.

They can choose to destroy the Republican Party, but they can't WIN anything with that destruction.
 
Old 06-18-2016, 02:33 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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And which side of Congress will be voting on the new SCOTUS justice.

The.... SENATE!!!
Right, you are.

I don't think you have furthered the notion that Dems will serve anyone other than the Democratic Party, though. In fact your bias is every bit as extreme as the current administration who gloats when they win, and the current presumptive nominee, who is under criminal investigation. Democrats first; America second.

The Dems will nominate someone who understands the importance of The Clinton Foundation, and The Dems will insure that they have enough votes to push their nominee through. In due time, The Dems will destroy the fabric of American society and when they have done so they will blame it all on the Republicans. An increase of 40% in food stamp recipients is not nearly enough for a Democrat. And a multi-decade low for labor participation can only mean more votes for the Free Stuff Party.

The unfortunate reality for us Republicans is that The Dems have the media, the minorities, and the political machines on their side. The Senate could, indeed, flip and become Democrat.

It's all politics and grandstanding. Obama nominated someone he did not want in order to try to make an issue out of Mich McConnell's refusal to consider him. But he never could force it to become an issue; nothing lost for Obama, though. Obama was going to gloat as usual if he won and no one cares when he whines about losing.
 
Old 06-18-2016, 02:48 PM
 
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Another thought, Hillary needs to worry about being "under the house", it happened to the wicked witch in the "Wizard of Oz".

I don't think the Republicans need to worry about anything other than realizing that they lost the last 2 elections, produced 18 candidates this time and 17 fell out of favor quickly and that the writing on the wall is that if they don't make some adjustments to the party they are finished for good. That should give them enough to think about to carry them through until the election in 2020 when if they don't get their act together, they'll try to run Jeb again.
OUCH, that had to hurt, Hillary are you al right now ? ......no .....

That's a powerful image to put in the minds and oh so funny. Then you followed it up with facts on the GOP.
Great job. You are doing your part to make America Great Again. Excellent post !!!
 
Old 06-18-2016, 03:01 PM
 
Location: Texas
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GOP truly is in danger of losing the senate.

The house? Possible, but it's a long shot.
 
Old 06-18-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Those are exactly the issued Leftist Talking points that TeamObama, CampClinto, the Political Elite Insiders are issuing to the BOTs & the Media.

Convince all voters that Trump has no chance and HOPE that Citizens will believe it and give up.
This is more about Anti-Voter than Anti-Trump. They fear the Voters who are FED-UP.
Is this the same "leftist talking points" that were used to say Obama would win against Romney? I know it was all MSM, and everybody is out to get you and Trump. It must be hell to go through life so afraid because of delusional paranoia. It is going to be fun this November.
 
Old 06-18-2016, 03:46 PM
 
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Those are exactly the issued Leftist Talking points that TeamObama, CampClinto, the Political Elite Insiders are issuing to the BOTs & the Media.

Convince all voters that Trump has no chance and HOPE that Citizens will believe it and give up.
This is more about Anti-Voter than Anti-Trump. They fear the Voters who are FED-UP.
You and your side should fear the voters who are FED-UP with Donald. The math on that is not in your favor and getting worse by the minute.
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