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You keep making decent points here and there. The condition of most workers is in the toilet because of the pro donor posture of the government. I am not saying capitalism is bad. In fact, capitalism is the only system, but successful capitalism must be sprinkled with socialism and you folks cannot see that.
The other reason for the poor condition of US workers is the corporate culture where it is always assumed that is is sound practice to pay extremely low wages. That is nothing more than a cultural value.
Businesses are run by people that are in it to make money, employees have it on their shoulders to work for, demand, and earn the most pay possible by adding more value and taking on more responsibility.
There is just way too much blame that can and should be put on our government and educational institutions for letting these situations occur. We send way too much tax money to them in the name of education, and the results we get are horrible. Fix the educational system, and I'm sure we will get better results. This is not about forcing others to pay higher salaries for arbitrary reasons. Sure companies CAN pay more, but there needs to be a reason, and as long as these companies are operating within the law and nobody is being mistreated I fail to see why they should hold the financial burden of supporting the output (students/employees) of a broken system out of their pockets.
Heck, they are probably doing a service by employing some of these people. A multi-billion dollar enterprise is a lot more well suited to over pay for labor that isn't getting a great return as opposed to if Walmart was broken up and there were 1000s of mom and pop shops with 10-20 employees where someone not pulling their weight would need to be fired or would just continue to be a financial drain on the owner.
That is about as self loathing as it gets. You are clearly unaware of what you are saying. Why do you say you deserve no vacation?
Um, what? I didn't say that. I'm paraphrasing the posts of those on here who don't think people should get vacation. I'm making fun of them & their untrue & absurd views.
The question that begs an answer is why are you opposed to more vacation time and a shorter work week. Are you concerned with the profit margin of your boss?
Please stop these attacks! I am not responding to any more of your posts until you stop.
Um, what? I didn't say that. I'm paraphrasing the posts of those on here who don't think people should get vacation. I'm making fun of them & their untrue & absurd views.
Businesses are run by people that are in it to make money, employees have it on their shoulders to work for, demand, and earn the most pay possible by adding more value and taking on more responsibility.
There is just way too much blame that can and should be put on our government and educational institutions for letting these situations occur. We send way too much tax money to them in the name of education, and the results we get are horrible. Fix the educational system, and I'm sure we will get better results. This is not about forcing others to pay higher salaries for arbitrary reasons. Sure companies CAN pay more, but there needs to be a reason, and as long as these companies are operating within the law and nobody is being mistreated I fail to see why they should hold the financial burden of supporting the output (students/employees) of a broken system out of their pockets.
Heck, they are probably doing a service by employing some of these people. A multi-billion dollar enterprise is a lot more well suited to over pay for labor that isn't getting a great return as opposed to if Walmart was broken up and there were 1000s of mom and pop shops with 10-20 employees where someone not pulling their weight would need to be fired or would just continue to be a financial drain on the owner.
The schools are awful, I agree.
And college kids get swindled with college loans.
And a country with a highly successful capitalist system provides a better lifestyle. But, we are not becoming more prosperous as a nation despite the success of business. Something is not right and we need a new thesis.
The schools are awful, I agree.
And college kids get swindled with college loans.
And a country with a highly successful capitalist system provides a better lifestyle. But, we are not becoming more prosperous as a nation despite the success of business. Something is not right and we need a new thesis.
Right, and my thesis is that unless the government starts spending our money better, and the education system gets better, we are screwed. I mean you don't even need to have rocket scientists graduating from HS, but heres an idea, teach BASIC FINANCE so that even if you aren't making a ton of money you understand how to save, invest, and not make poor financial decisions. This is one solution that doesn't require anyone to earn/make more money and empowers people to have a better life with whats already within their reach in terms of employment and wages.
Right, and my thesis is that unless the government starts spending our money better, and the education system gets better, we are screwed. I mean you don't even need to have rocket scientists graduating from HS, but heres an idea, teach BASIC FINANCE so that even if you aren't making a ton of money you understand how to save, invest, and not make poor financial decisions. This is one solution that doesn't require anyone to earn/make more money and empowers people to have a better life with whats already within their reach in terms of employment and wages.
I am in full agreement.
I would also teach ethics all the time.
I would make US schools like Japan schools.
There are many European countries where they work short hours and are vastly productive. Germans are well under 30 hours a week and have a better lifestyle that YOU. Nevertheless, you defend your employer's decision to make you work long hours and provide you with a few days off a year. Are you rationalizing your position in the company? Do you truly believe you are valued? Let me tell you a secret: Denial is not a river in Egypt. German and Dutch workers have a better lifestyle that YOU.
No one MAKES me work long hours. And I don't agree that Germans have a better lifestyle than me. That is a subjective opinion YOU are projecting onto this discussion. Germans and Americans have DIFFERENT lifestyles.
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Comparing slavery to the current working conditions of paid employees is not how you prove a point.
