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Old 06-21-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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No it's not irrelevant. As I stated, if the kid was a muslim our dear leader would have invited him to the white house. The kid could sue the district and win.
Probably not actually. The pop-tart kid was actually suspended for entirely different reason than what most stories are suggesting. His continual misbehavior, which culminated in him waving a gun shaped pop-tart and shouting about it, is why he was suspended.

The clock kid was suspended because a teacher thought he had a bomb, which was in fact definitely not a bomb. Was it racist? I don't care. The suspension should have been reversed and the story never should have happened. Since the school handled it bad and people reacted the way they did, Obama did his job as president which is pretending to give a **** about stuff like this. A president has better things to do than meet with a 14 year old or throw the first pitch a Red Sox game. But the president is a figurehead, and when the members of his party felt the boy was a victim of racism, Obama did what he had to do.

Again, if you wanted to say the various slants on the media create dishonest understandings of reality, I'd love to have that discussion. That's a discussion that matters. But you're just going the "Muslims are taking over and Obama sucks" route which is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and frankly, is a conversation that's been had enough. There are plenty of thread about what you want to talk about. Get out of this one and go to those.
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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"Muslims are taking over and Obama sucks"
There you go putting words into my mouth again. I will agree with what YOU said though, obama sucks.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:12 PM
 
Location: Humboldt Park, Chicago
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Probably not actually. The pop-tart kid was actually suspended for entirely different reason than what most stories are suggesting. His continual misbehavior, which culminated in him waving a gun shaped pop-tart and shouting about it, is why he was suspended.

The clock kid was suspended because a teacher thought he had a bomb, which was in fact definitely not a bomb. Was it racist? I don't care. The suspension should have been reversed and the story never should have happened. Since the school handled it bad and people reacted the way they did, Obama did his job as president which is pretending to give a **** about stuff like this. A president has better things to do than meet with a 14 year old or throw the first pitch a Red Sox game. But the president is a figurehead, and when the members of his party felt the boy was a victim of racism, Obama did what he had to do.

Again, if you wanted to say the various slants on the media create dishonest understandings of reality, I'd love to have that discussion. That's a discussion that matters. But you're just going the "Muslims are taking over and Obama sucks" route which is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and frankly, is a conversation that's been had enough. There are plenty of thread about what you want to talk about. Get out of this one and go to those.
Don't get me wrong, the clock kid is a knucklehead too, but sadly, the media (both conservative and liberal) played into his little stunt.
But nobody, and I mean NOBODY can possibly believe that the teachers thought for one second that the clock was actually a bomb, since not only did they not evacuate the school, they didn't remove the suspected "bomb" from it either.
I think Obama is alright, but clock boy is one of the times I wish Obama had just kept his yap shut.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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So, you feel that clock boy should be held responsible for the fact that his sister was disruptive, but you think pop tart boy shouldn't be help responsible for the fact that he himself was disruptive?
That's pretty odd.
Both deserve the same treatment, was my point. Except one was serenaded at the White House.
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Old 06-21-2016, 01:40 PM
 
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Probably not actually. The pop-tart kid was actually suspended for entirely different reason than what most stories are suggesting. His continual misbehavior, which culminated in him waving a gun shaped pop-tart and shouting about it, is why he was suspended.

The clock kid was suspended because a teacher thought he had a bomb, which was in fact definitely not a bomb. Was it racist? I don't care. The suspension should have been reversed and the story never should have happened. Since the school handled it bad and people reacted the way they did, Obama did his job as president which is pretending to give a **** about stuff like this. A president has better things to do than meet with a 14 year old or throw the first pitch a Red Sox game. But the president is a figurehead, and when the members of his party felt the boy was a victim of racism, Obama did what he had to do.

Again, if you wanted to say the various slants on the media create dishonest understandings of reality, I'd love to have that discussion. That's a discussion that matters. But you're just going the "Muslims are taking over and Obama sucks" route which is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and frankly, is a conversation that's been had enough. There are plenty of thread about what you want to talk about. Get out of this one and go to those.
Clock boy had been warned repeatedly by his teachers to keep it in his locker. He was looking for a reaction.
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Old 06-21-2016, 04:25 PM
 
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Don't get me wrong, the clock kid is a knucklehead too, but sadly, the media (both conservative and liberal) played into his little stunt.
But nobody, and I mean NOBODY can possibly believe that the teachers thought for one second that the clock was actually a bomb, since not only did they not evacuate the school, they didn't remove the suspected "bomb" from it either.
I think Obama is alright, but clock boy is one of the times I wish Obama had just kept his yap shut.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's stupid that Obama pretended to care (because I seriously doubt that he did; he's the president of the united states, one high schooler getting suspended for maybe not a great reason does not bother him). I get why he did it and all, but still. Waste of time.

And the whole thing was. I don't really care why he was suspended. It doesn't matter to me if it was racism as some people say, or a misunderstanding, or the kid was trying to get a reaction. No matter which it is, it wasn't a national news story and neither is pop-tart kid. People have been suspended from school for reasons far more stupid than either of them, and their parents don't turn it into a news story. Because no one cares why your stupid kid was suspended. It's not like suspension is the end of the world anyway.

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Clock boy had been warned repeatedly by his teachers to keep it in his locker. He was looking for a reaction.
If this is true then I'll tell him what I'd tell the pop-tart kid: stop being an ass.
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Of course it's become popular to take stories like this and compare them to the looseness going on in other areas of America. And I'm all for that because things have gotten ridiculous.

Having said that, this is a bad example. If this kid has been in trouble several times, as the article indicates, this may have been the straw that broke the camel's back - and who knows why? It's possible he did it, was told not to, and didn't listen....again....which makes the issue about disobedience and not at all about a pop tart gun.

I suspect there's far more to the story that the school can't reveal.
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:54 PM
 
Location: One of the 13 original colonies.
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This kind of stupidity will continue as long as liberals are running things. No common sense at all.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:16 PM
 
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This kind of stupidity will continue as long as liberals are running things. No common sense at all.
Know how I know you have failed to read most of the responses? Go read them, it will become apparent.

Common sense would also include reading at least a post or two after the first one before replying.
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Old 06-21-2016, 08:19 PM
 
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Once a incident is done you can't clear your name just be a BETTER person do the RIGHTthing then AO won't ever know
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