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Old 06-22-2016, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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their best was not good enough.

so instead of putting people like Ted Kennedy on not fly lists, they need to improve their internal processes.
Well unless something changes expect more of the same, the FBI had no grounds to arrest any of them.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:29 PM
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Location: NC/SC Border Patrol
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My opinion is they are talking about banning guns when they should be demanding that the borders be closed and immigration laws be enforced. I could get excited if their actions got rid of illegals in this country.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:36 PM
 
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I grew up around guns and I own guns, and I don't want tougher gun laws.

But part of being a responsible gun owner (is gun laws and regulations.) Whether its not keeping your finger on the trigger while walking with a gun, keeping the gun pointed down when not in use, checking to see if a gun is unloaded before showing it to people, keeping guns away from small children, proper gun training, ex.ex.

And just like individual gun owners have the above laws and regulations for safe gun use, republicans in Washington should also have gun safety regulations. But republicans in Washington are not responsible gun owners, and they take no preventive measures to keep gun ownership safe, whether its ignoring 20 children getting shot in a school or refusing to pass laws to stop terrorists from buying guns (republicans are not responsible gun owners.)

And when irresponsible gun owners are in charge of making gun laws (its not a good thing for responsible gun owners.)
you are talking about two different things here gun regulation vs gun safety. much as you want you cant regulate safe gun owners.

but any gun regulations for the most part are in fact unconstitutional.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:37 PM
 
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Kabuki Theater is living in a country where mass shootings are so common people barely bat an eye at them any longer, and yet the people who control Congress don't think there's any problem whatsoever. Another mass shooting? Ah, well, c'est la vie. Moving right along, we have a 60th vote to defund Obamacare and a bill to prevent Harriet Tubman from being on the $20 bill to get to. You know, really important stuff...

This do-nothing Congress is the very epitome of Kabuki Theater.
Sure ....so tell us which one of these Killing Sprees would have been stopped by this "No Fly, No Buy" flappdaddle?

Holmes in a Colorado Theater (with his mental issues & drug use) ?
Lanza in an Elementary School with his stolen guns & known mental problems?
The 2 Islamic Terrorists in San Bernadino who were never on a Fly or Watch List?
The Islamic Terrorist in Orlando that was turned in to the FBI twice and "cleared" for PC?
How about Dylan whose greatest sin appeared to be a photograph of an old Civil War Battle Flag?

Absolutely NOTHING in this (as yet unwritten) "No Fly, No Buy" Kabuki Theater would made a Hill of Beans difference....... Anyone with a Brain understands that. It's just PoliticL Razzle-Dazzle.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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Well unless something changes expect more of the same, the FBI had no grounds to arrest any of them.
yes we know how well our own gov't enforces laws - like immigration laws for example which may have helped track down the 9/11 terrorists that overstayed their visa's.

or lets hear it for our wonderful refugee vetting process that allows war criminals to be working security at Dulles airport.

the laws aren't the problem here. our current gov't and their agencies ARE. enforce EXISTING laws would be a great start.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:40 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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That bill did not change the waiting period, if he wanted to do something why not increase to 30 days as it is in some states, what's the rush. Just throwing money at the problem is not a solution, change the waiting period.
Actually, I'd prefer to go in the opposite direction and make the background check instantaneous, or at least make it faster than three days.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:43 PM
 
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They are being petulant, spoiled brats. Just like their voters.
They know how to appeal to their Low Information Snowflake/Safe Spaces Voters. The Gruber'd
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:46 PM
 
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The Republicans won't listen to a reasonable gun restriction. They get what they've given the last 8 years. Obstruction....
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville, FL
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The Republicans won't listen to a reasonable gun restriction. They get what they've given the last 8 years. Obstruction....
Reasonable gun restriction? That's an oxymoron. "Reasonable" gun restrictions do nothing but infringe on the rights of the law abiding.
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Old 06-22-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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Idiots. Nothing more needs to be said.
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