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Old 06-22-2016, 07:42 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Is that worse than the supply side trickle down (that dont trickle down) economic policies of the last 8 years?
Obama has tried to raise the min wage, give the middle class tax cuts, give small businesses taxes cuts, lower credit card interest rates, lower student loan rates, and end tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs (potentially bringing millions of high paying jobs back to America.) But the republicans stopped Obama from doing all those things.

GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News
GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill
GOP Blocks Credit Card Bill, Endorses Skyrocketing Interest Rates | ThinkProgress
Senate Republicans block consideration of student loan bill - CBS News
Senate Republicans block bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing | TheHill


Above Obama tried to do the opposite of supply side/trickle down economics (but the republicans stopped him.)
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Texas Hill Country
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I am not even remotely trying to justify anything members of congress do.

I am simply pointing out that all of the slurs directed at the democrats in this thread can also be directed at republicans.

I thought I explained that already.
Please do not take it as being singled out; yours was more a post of opportunity when I was making my post.

If I caused any offense, I apologize.
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Old 06-22-2016, 07:50 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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but any gun regulations for the most part are in fact unconstitutional.
But that does not stop them from happening.
More Than Half of Americans Now Have Tougher Gun Laws | Mother Jones

And while Americans loose their gun rights on the state level, the Washington republicans take no action on the national level to regulate and contain the situation.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:01 PM
 
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But that does not stop them from happening.
More Than Half of Americans Now Have Tougher Gun Laws | Mother Jones

And while Americans loose their gun rights on the state level, the Washington republicans take no action on the national level to regulate and contain the situation.
Some facts since the first recorded mass shooting in 1966:

• 869 victims (17.38 people a year on average)
• 144 deaths were age 19 or younger
• 244 guns were used (4.88 guns a year)
• 4 weapons on average per event
• Of the ones that we do know about 140 were obtained legally and 39 were illegal
• 9 mm show up the most often
• 126 males and 3 females were the shooter makeup
• "Twenty-seven percent of the mass shootings occurred in workplaces, and 1 in 8 took place at schools. Others took place in religious, military, retail and restaurant or other locations. California has had more mass shootings than any other state, with 21."
• "People killed in mass shootings make up less than half of 1 percent of the people shot to death in the United States. More than half of gun deaths every year are suicides. In 2015, more than 12,000 people have been killed by guns, according to the Gun Violence Archive."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...gs-in-america/

Now how silly does it look to have a bunch of "grown-ups" sitting in the floor trying to convict an entire nation without due process in the halls of congress? Talk about picking your battles... All deaths are tragic but this is just pathetic. If you're going to try and save lives through legislation why not start with, to use POTUS' terminology, going after the heart attack first, literally?

• You're 37 times more likely to be killed by heart disease than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
• You're 33 times more likely to die by malignant neoplasms than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
• You're 8.35 times more likely to die by a cerebrovascular event than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
• You're 7.73 times more likely to die by a respiratory disease than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
• You're 6.73 times more likely to die by accident than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:10 PM
 
Location: NY
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Hey, how about all these bleeding heart Democrats get in their limos and do a sit-in in front of America’s largest mosque complex, officially known as Turkish-American Culture and Civilization Center in Maryland and protest Muslims killing American citizens. Think that will ever happen?
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:16 PM
 
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Obama has tried to raise the min wage, give the middle class tax cuts, give small businesses taxes cuts, lower credit card interest rates, lower student loan rates, and end tax breaks for corporations that outsource jobs (potentially bringing millions of high paying jobs back to America.) But the republicans stopped Obama from doing all those things.
No he hasn't. He says a lot of things but generally does the opposite. The (D)'s held the majority in both the House and Senate and enriched the top. They held the Senate and the White House even longer and did none of that. They did extend the Bush tax cuts though.

If the (D)'s had done half of those things when they had the opportunity they would still be in control but they insisted on pushing through their massive welfare program for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies instead.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:18 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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Some facts since the first recorded mass shooting in 1966:

• 869 victims (17.38 people a year on average)
• 144 deaths were age 19 or younger
• 244 guns were used (4.88 guns a year)
• 4 weapons on average per event
• Of the ones that we do know about 140 were obtained legally and 39 were illegal
• 9 mm show up the most often
• 126 males and 3 females were the shooter makeup
• "Twenty-seven percent of the mass shootings occurred in workplaces, and 1 in 8 took place at schools. Others took place in religious, military, retail and restaurant or other locations. California has had more mass shootings than any other state, with 21."
• "People killed in mass shootings make up less than half of 1 percent of the people shot to death in the United States. More than half of gun deaths every year are suicides. In 2015, more than 12,000 people have been killed by guns, according to the Gun Violence Archive."

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graph...gs-in-america/

Now how silly does it look to have a bunch of "grown-ups" sitting in the floor trying to convict an entire nation without due process in the halls of congress? Talk about picking your battles... All deaths are tragic but this is just pathetic. If you're going to try and save lives through legislation why not start with, to use POTUS' terminology, going after the heart attack first, literally?
American men, women, and children are being shot in schools, movie theaters, and night clubs. And republicans in Washington refuse to take (any) measure to help solve the problem. Democrats in congress are simply taking a symbolic stand against republicans who refuse to address Americans being killed with guns.

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• You're 37 times more likely to be killed by heart disease than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
• You're 33 times more likely to die by malignant neoplasms than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
• You're 8.35 times more likely to die by a cerebrovascular event than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
• You're 7.73 times more likely to die by a respiratory disease than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
• You're 6.73 times more likely to die by accident than by homicide using any weapon, not just guns and not in a mass shooting.
Any you're voting to add $24.5 trillion dollars to our national debt in the next 20 years, and then leave Americas children living in a bankrupt country.
Trump

And just like you could care less about adding $24.5 trillion dollars to our national debt, the majority of Americans could care less about all your facts and figures above. Fact is Americans are being gunned down in schools, movie theaters, and night clubs. And the majority of Americans want something done about it.

Americans' Desire for Stricter Gun Laws Up Sharply

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Old 06-22-2016, 08:19 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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There is more people looking at this thread than are watching the dark room with the sit-in.

The lights are out.
Well you need to turn on your TV, the GOP is back in the house.


Tune into MSNBC, FOX News isn't carrying it. I feel sorry for Paul Ryan, he has his hands full.
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:20 PM
 
Location: New Orleans, La. USA
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No he hasn't. He says a lot of things but generally does the opposite. The (D)'s held the majority in both the House and Senate and enriched the top. They held the Senate and the White House even longer and did none of that. They did extend the Bush tax cuts though.

If the (D)'s had done half of those things when they had the opportunity they would still be in control but they insisted on pushing through their massive welfare program for the insurance and pharmaceutical companies instead.
Sources say Obama/democrats tried to do all those things (but the republicans stopped them.)


GOP Senators Reject Tax Cuts for Middle Class - CBS News

GOP Blocks Senate Small-Business Tax Cut Bill

GOP Blocks Credit Card Bill, Endorses Skyrocketing Interest Rates | ThinkProgress

Senate Republicans block consideration of student loan bill - CBS News

Senate Republicans block bill to end tax breaks for outsourcing | TheHill
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Old 06-22-2016, 08:40 PM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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These questions have been answered. No one needs a 60 inch television. A car with 500 HP. etc.

As far as I'm concerned you should be allowed to own a bazooka.

I agree! - but who keeps crying for the freedom to own the assault weapon? I think they fit right in with the bazooka--- restricted!
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