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Old 06-23-2016, 06:41 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Actually, I'd prefer to go in the opposite direction and make the background check instantaneous, or at least make it faster than three days.
It is instant in many places if not all. Here in AZ it's cash and carry, same with MT. In both places you walk in, pick out what you want then fill out paperwork. A few minutes later they come back and either let you take it or tell you there's a problem.
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:43 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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Default Protest to raise $$$$?

What really cracks me up about this "protest" is when they started trying to raise money while protesting.

Looked like some kind of <insert disease> marathon show!
Maybe they should call Jerry Lewis for help?
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:48 AM
 
Location: Paradise
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I didn't read all 23 pages...


If this is what these lawmakers want to do, hey, have at it!


Personally, I think it's a waste of time and money and resources that could be better spent on these issues. While they sit petulantly and wait for someone to give them what they want they could be, you know, NEGOTIATING.


Meh...let them sit on their arses. They'll decide they have something better to do soon enough. I say it doesn't last another day.
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:48 AM
 
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That's your opinion, and indeed there are some people that try to make the argument that the "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" refers to the parents' jurisdiction, but the current general opinion of most legal scholars in this country is that people born in the United States are indeed US citizens.


Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
And while knowing EXACTLY that, SCOTUS ruled Wong Kim Ark a US citizen based on the fact that his parents were permanent residents of the US at the time of his birth:

"The evident intention, and the necessary effect, of the submission of this case to the decision of the court upon the facts agreed by the parties were to present for determination the single question stated at the beginning of this opinion, namely, whether a child born in the United States, of parent of Chinese descent, who, at the time of his birth, are subjects of the Emperor of China, but have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States, and are there carrying on business, and are not employed in any diplomatic or official capacity under the Emperor of China, becomes at the time of his birth a citizen of the United States. For the reasons above stated, this court is of opinion that the question must be answered in the affirmative."

What Gray has done by stating exactly such is to specifically stipulate that parents "have a permanent domicil and residence in the United States" in order for their US-born child to acquire birthright citizenship.

Illegal immigrants don't have a permanent domicile and residence in the US because they are in the country illegally. They shouldn't even be here at all. Therefore, their US-born children are not US citizens.

Granting US citizenship to anchor babies is no more than policy overreach, supported by neither the 14th Amendment nor federal statute.
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Old 06-23-2016, 06:57 AM
 
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There is NOT ONE PIECE OF TRUTH IN YOUR ENTIRE POST.

POSTING OBVIOUS BIASED SITES DOES NOTING FOR YOUR CREDIBILITY, WHICH YOU AVE NONE.

But then NOBODY is surprised!
he's been vomiting up that 'fink progress'/Romney budget link for the past 4 years

why he keeps yammering on about tax plans of people who were never even in office is anyone's guess.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:15 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Cars need to be ban, to keep the drunk drivers off the road.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:18 AM
 
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Cars need to be ban, to keep the drunk drivers off the road.
I'm all for a no-drive list. Anyone with a ticket gets put on, obviously they don't know how to drive. We will figure out how to get them off the list later.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:19 AM
 
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Some did a Shemp Howard, spinning in circles on the floor, others kicked and screamed, still others thought it was a ( rhymes with sit, add an H) it in and, well, there was a mess to clean up.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:27 AM
 
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Cars need to be ban, to keep the drunk drivers off the road.
IF Democrat politicians ACTUALLY cared about preventing needless deaths instead of posturing and putting on a dog and pony show for their low-info voters, they'd redirect their efforts to other much higher causes of death:

Latest data, cause of deaths per year:

Illness: 2,404,054
Other injuries (including adverse effect while in medical care): 65,866
Overdose: 35,663
Motor Vehicle: 35,612
Firearm Homicide: 11,675
Mass Shooting: 502

Really good chart breaking down cause of deaths in the U.S.:

http://media.oregonlive.com/data/ima...86_post-01.jpg

Narcotics are a controlled substance. Look at how ineffective that is.
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Old 06-23-2016, 07:41 AM
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IF Democrat politicians ACTUALLY cared about preventing needless deaths instead of posturing and putting on a dog and pony show for their low-info voters, they'd redirect their efforts to other much higher causes of death:

Latest data, cause of deaths per year:

Illness: 2,404,054 (Obamacare, promotion of healthy eating)
Other injuries (including adverse effect while in medical care): 65,866 (Obamacare)
Overdose: 35,663 (See link below)
Motor Vehicle: 35,612 (Democrats are far more likely than Republicans to support smart growth, mass transit, commuter rail systems, cycling, and other ways of getting around that don't involve cars.)
Firearm Homicide: 11,675
Mass Shooting: 502

Really good chart breaking down cause of deaths in the U.S.:

http://media.oregonlive.com/data/ima...86_post-01.jpg

Narcotics are a controlled substance. Look at how ineffective that is.
As noted above in bold, Democrats have made a lot of effort to address every one of these things.

Senate Dems vow fight over drug abuse funding | TheHill
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