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Old 06-30-2016, 02:17 PM
 
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As for the "scary black rifle part," just how many times can we stroke ourselves with that sort of rhetoric, I surely don't know...[/quote]

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Closer to the count of 50 is this question about the "evil black rifle." Doesn't ever get old? Talk about the good laugh in any case!
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That is brought up because that is what the 1994 law banned. The law was based strictly on looks, not function. Put a few accessories on a muzzleloader and it became illegal. Take a few things that did not affect function off an AR15, and it is no longer on the list. The government only banned "scary black rifles".
floorist is right. in the 1994 gun ban, the AR15 was in fact banned from production. however the ruger mini14 was not. what was the difference? both were chambering the same round, had similar barrel lengths, had similar ammunition capacities, both were semi automatic rifles. so what was the difference between the rifles? the AR15 LOOKED like the M16, where as the ruger mini14 didnt. as such the scary black rifle was banned, but the not scary not black rifle wasnt.

the so called assault weapons ban made no sense to begin with, because you could still manufacture AR15s, you just needed to remove a few items, and viola it was then legal.
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Old 06-30-2016, 02:28 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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Plus any semi can be fully by filing off the lobe in the return mechanism...if their were no guns animals would be killing people with sporks...banning guns is as effective as is banning murder...

Thugs always look for any reason whatsoever to impose their will upon their neighbor because they hate their fellow man and believe themselves to be Divine. Again, if you want to be sure you don't get killed, lock yourself in a vault (and hope the thug government doesn't have the combination)...leave those who wish to be free human beings alone and free from your aggression. No one "needs" you or anyone else to dictate how we live our lives through you or anyone else's acts of aggression. Government agents committing your crimes for you and destroying other people's freedom does not make you noble, you are still a thug and a tyrant. No better than those you fear are going to shoot you in any way whatsoever...
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Old 06-30-2016, 02:35 PM
 
Location: Flippin AR
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The population is growing, thanks to immigration (both legal and illegal).

Plus, the vast majority of immigrants coming here have grown up with crime and violence, which is their "normal." They are usually unskilled, and do not assimilate into working-class America because even the children of working class Americans can't achieve the lifestyle their parents led. With virtually no jobs for young men in particular, they will use their high energy to get ahead in the only way available--through crime and the drug economy. The only other thing they can do is sell themselves into military slavery and die or be maimed halfway across the world, in order to enrich the Military Industrial Complex, and most are smarter than that.

Therefore, we'll have more crime, and crime using guns, than we had in the past.
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Old 06-30-2016, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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So their job was more important than their principles.
Yep!
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Old 06-30-2016, 02:40 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Excuses never stop do they....

And actually, you must have forgotten the 2102/2014 elections, the dems were swept away, in a pretty brutal beat down....
The blue dogs led the way in getting swept...
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Old 06-30-2016, 02:41 PM
 
Location: The ends DO NOT justify the means!!!
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The population is growing, thanks to immigration (both legal and illegal).

Plus, the vast majority of immigrants coming here have grown up with crime and violence, which is their "normal." They are usually unskilled, and do not assimilate into working-class America because even the children of working class Americans can't achieve the lifestyle their parents led. With virtually no jobs for young men in particular, they will use their high energy to get ahead in the only way available--through crime and the drug economy. The only other thing they can do is sell themselves into military slavery and die or be maimed halfway across the world, in order to enrich the Military Industrial Complex, and most are smarter than that.

Therefore, we'll have more crime, and crime using guns, than we had in the past.
We will always be a barbaric and violent "society" and get progressively more so with time. This is the simple result of living in a system that is based entirely upon barbaric initiations of force of one upon another through "government". Everything "we" or our "government" does is an initiation of force upon one individual to benefit another. We call it "democracy" as though the "majority" somehow has a "right" to impose their will upon the "minority" through aggression. A violent, aggressive, immoral, "society" is the natural result of the system that we live under...
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Old 06-30-2016, 03:03 PM
 
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Yep!
At least you admit the dems are for themselves and not for the people the are supposed to be representing....
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Old 06-30-2016, 03:09 PM
 
Location: louisville
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I love these hypothetical 'what ifs' 'how To's' trying to make snide political commentary under the veil of 'open discussion'

There is another thread about this subject from a CNBC article that's more civil. Why? The article acknowledges the whole mass shooting canard and comes to 1 simple conclusion: enforce the 10000 laws already on the books
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Old 06-30-2016, 03:24 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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That is brought up because that is what the 1994 law banned. The law was based strictly on looks, not function. Put a few accessories on a muzzleloader and it became illegal. Take a few things that did not affect function off an AR15, and it is no longer on the list. The government only banned "scary black rifles".


How is he to know that. They were not even born yet.
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Old 07-01-2016, 09:04 AM
 
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The primary intent of aiming to center mass is avoid missing completely.

If the intent was to kill, training would be for head shots. Torso shots from a handgun very frequently do not kill, and more often than not do not kill quickly enough to prevent the assailant from returning fire himself (ought to hamper his aim, though).
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FYI: POLICE PROTOCOL -- If the suspect points a gun at someone, or reaches for a gun in a way that indicates they're going to shoot, police are allowed to fire. Police are trained to shoot at "center mass," or a suspect's torso where many vital organs are located."

Again, sounds like shoot to kill to me, though agreed it is also easier and/or more likely to hit the assailant in "center mass" instead of the head, so a bit of both is why protocol is to shoot "where many vital organs are located."
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