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Old 07-06-2016, 11:09 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge View Post
They don't classify such abortions as surgical. They just use a blanket term.
No, they quite clearly define the differences between SURGICAL and medical abortions:

Medical Versus Surgical Abortion
https://www.ucsfhealth.org/education...ical_abortion/

WHO | Surgical methods for first trimester termination of pregnancy

Nearly 80% of abortions are surgical procedures, and women's deaths have been reported as a result of complications of legally performed abortions.

Given those facts, there's no way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center medical and facilities standards aren't necessary for facilities performing SURGICAL abortions.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:12 AM
 
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No, they quite clearly define the differences between SURGICAL and medical abortions:

Medical Versus Surgical Abortion
https://www.ucsfhealth.org/education...ical_abortion/

WHO | Surgical methods for first trimester termination of pregnancy

Nearly 80% of abortions are surgical procedures, and women's deaths have been reported as a result of complications of legally performed abortions.

Given those facts, there's no way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center medical and facilities standards aren't necessary for facilities performing SURGICAL abortions.
obviously you can argue the issue and the supreme court struck it down.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:14 AM
 
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obviously you can argue the issue and the supreme court struck it down.
Oh, yay... yet another misogynist who thinks women shouldn't have their Constitutional 14th Amendment right to equal protection. /disgusted

Dead women's blood on your hands, hothulamaui. Revel in it...
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:26 AM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Oh, yay... yet another misogynist who thinks women shouldn't have their Constitutional 14th Amendment right to equal protection. /disgusted

Dead women's blood on your hands, hothulamaui. Revel in it...
Are you enrolled in a theater class because you are dramatic.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:27 AM
 
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Oh, yay... yet another misogynist who thinks women shouldn't have their Constitutional 14th Amendment right to equal protection. /disgusted

Dead women's blood on your hands, hothulamaui. Revel in it...
seriously, get a grip!
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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They don't classify such abortions as surgical. They just use a blanket term.

You aren't arguing based on facts. Your argument is based on semantics. That's why you're dumbfounded.
That's the intent of people like IC..... Argue semantics and hopefully if repeat something long enough it'll become true.

I applaud those who won't allow Informedconsent's ignorance to pass.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:30 AM
 
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No, they quite clearly define the differences between SURGICAL and medical abortions:

Medical Versus Surgical Abortion
https://www.ucsfhealth.org/education...ical_abortion/

WHO | Surgical methods for first trimester termination of pregnancy

Nearly 80% of abortions are surgical procedures, and women's deaths have been reported as a result of complications of legally performed abortions.

Given those facts, there's no way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center medical and facilities standards aren't necessary for facilities performing SURGICAL abortions.
Do you actually read your links or just hope no one reads them? This is your SEC debacle all over again and you simply can't be proven to be honest.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:32 AM
 
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Are you enrolled in a theater class because you are dramatic.
I'm truthful.

Nearly 80% of abortions are surgical procedures, and women's deaths have been reported as a result of complications of legally performed abortions (CDC tracks that).

Given those facts, there's no way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center medical and facilities standards aren't necessary for facilities performing SURGICAL abortions, unless they're OK with needlessly killing women.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:35 AM
 
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seriously, get a grip!
On women's health and lives? I do. Unfortunately, you don't. How sad...

Did I mention the CDC tracks abortion complication DEATHS?

Nearly 80% of abortions are surgical procedures, and women's deaths have been reported as a result of complications of legally performed abortions (CDC tracks that).

Given those facts, there's no way anyone can legitimately argue that ambulatory surgery center medical and facilities standards aren't necessary for facilities performing SURGICAL abortions...

unless they're OK with needlessly killing women.

We can all see in this thread who falls in that latter category.
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Old 07-06-2016, 11:37 AM
 
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Do you actually read your links
Yes, I do. Especially this one:

Medical Versus Surgical Abortion
https://www.ucsfhealth.org/education...ical_abortion/
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