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Old 06-29-2016, 10:39 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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They were. Look up the Texas laws regarding ambulatory surgery centers.
No they aren't. Women can have a D&C in a doctors office, people can have lumpectomies, polyp removal, cyst removal, among many other minor surgical procedures done in offices that are not required to operate at surgical center levels. Why do you not want all surgical procedures to be safe?
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:39 AM
 
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I'll perform some. I think I'm qualified based on this decision.
Interesting point. Standards have been negated according to this SCOTUS ruling.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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No they aren't. Women can have a D&C in a doctors office, people can have lumpectomies, polyp removal, cyst removal, among many other minor surgical procedures done in offices that are not required to operate at surgical center levels.
Do those doctors have admitting privileges?
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:42 AM
 
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Poor excuse in this case. The requirements would not shut down any clinics, only maintain standards that are required for other operating theatres which they should be because if I need to enforce sterility on my procedures then cutting in to get a baby out should have similar requirements.

The best part is that they rules this unconstitutional while letting anti gun laws which had tons of more intrusive requirements stand. Imagine having women pay $300 for the permit and 6 months of waiting to get an abortion. SCOTUS would break speed records in reversing that decision.. all while major gun litigation sit for years (Peruta is on year number 7) languish in lower courts.
And yet women can deliver babies at home including having an episiotomy (cutting to get a baby out) without a licensed doctor even being there. You can have many minor surgical procedures done in doctors and dentis offices that are not required to operate at the level of a surgical center.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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Do those doctors have admitting privileges?
They are not required to have admitting privileges under Texas law, nor are they required to follow surgical center regulations.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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From a study in the US.


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Scientists at the University of California San Francisco analyzed 54,911 abortions conducted from 2009-2010 as well as six weeks of followup services for each of the women.

The report, published Monday in Obstetrics & Gynecology journal, found that of those abortions, 2.1 percent overall resulted in a complication, with just 0.23 percent having a major complication like a blood transfusion or surgery that required hospitalization.
The authors of the study told Time the complication rate is less than that associated with wisdom tooth extractions, 7 percent, and tonsillectomies, 9 percent. The major complication rate is lower than major complications resulting from a colonoscopy, .35 percent.



Major complication rate from abortion less than that of colonoscopy, study finds - UPI.com
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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Do those doctors have admitting privileges?
And we return to the issue that you have been avoiding. Abortion providers are routinely denied admitting privileges because hospital boards don't want to deal with the social, financial, and political ramifications of working with them. That should make you very, very angry if you are truly concerned about women's health issues.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Hey, good on all you liberals for 2nd class citizening women's health care needs. Dance in the streets that women's health care doesn't have to meet the same standards of everyone else's health care.

Happy with yourselves about that?

Liberals = Misogynists
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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From a study in the US.
Not true, according to the Finland study:

Immediate complications after medical compared with surgical termination of pregnancy. - PubMed - NCBI

More accurate record keeping was in place in the Finland study because, you know... more strict regulations.
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Old 06-29-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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And we return to the issue that you have been avoiding. Abortion providers are routinely denied admitting privileges because hospital boards don't want to deal with the social, financial, and political ramifications of working with them.
If they're not considered legitimate practitioners by their peers, why should they be allowed to invade women's bodies?
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