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IMO the OP is misleading. The weapon used by the assailant was not provided. How do you know the person who shot the assailant in the leg "prevented a massacre?" The OP link did not say that and this situation is not similar in any way to the Orlando massacre, which happened INSIDE the club and with an assailant who went to the club specifically to massacre people.
That said, I have nothing against legal gun owners and I'm a legal gun owners as well. But this story doesn't "prove" anything and I have seen similar stories in various local areas and on the news that mirror this one.
IMO the OP is misleading. The weapon used by the assailant was not provided. How do you know the person who shot the assailant in the leg "prevented a massacre?" The OP link did not say that and this situation is not similar in any way to the Orlando massacre, which happened INSIDE the club and with an assailant who went to the club specifically to massacre people.
That said, I have nothing against legal gun owners and I'm a legal gun owners as well. But this story doesn't "prove" anything and I have seen similar stories in various local areas and on the news that mirror this one.
The point is "potential" since that is the nonsense currently being tossed around. It also points out the lack of a sensationalist news media when it doesn't fit the narrative.
A CCL holder prevented a potential mass shooting by disabling the deranged shooter by shooting him in the leg. Naturally, only a couple of local news sources are covering this. It kinda deflates the gun control argument when someone with a gun ends up saving lives.
In fairness, is every time that there is a shooting at a bar considered national news? I think many people know that some "good guys with guns" and proper training, if they are responsible and all that, aren't a problem. But the whole "it's not getting media coverage" is right wing cherry-picking at best.
In fairness, is every time that there is a shooting at a bar considered national news? I think many people know that some "good guys with guns" and proper training, if they are responsible and all that, aren't a problem. But the whole "it's not getting media coverage" is right wing cherry-picking at best.
By "many people," you mean who? I don't think any liberals know that.
IMO the OP is misleading. The weapon used by the assailant was not provided. How do you know the person who shot the assailant in the leg "prevented a massacre?" The OP link did not say that and this situation is not similar in any way to the Orlando massacre, which happened INSIDE the club and with an assailant who went to the club specifically to massacre people.
That said, I have nothing against legal gun owners and I'm a legal gun owners as well. But this story doesn't "prove" anything and I have seen similar stories in various local areas and on the news that mirror this one.
It proves that a man with a Concealed license stopped a man that was illegally carrying a gun from continuing to spray bullets into a crowd of people, and the main stream media did not report on it.
In fairness, is every time that there is a shooting at a bar considered national news? I think many people know that some "good guys with guns" and proper training, if they are responsible and all that, aren't a problem. But the whole "it's not getting media coverage" is right wing cherry-picking at best.
I think in light of the terrorist attack here in Orlando, the media should have picked up on the story. There were similarities, being a night club and a man incandescently spraying bullets into a crowd of people.
I believe they would have broadcast the story if there was not a legal concealed carrier that stopped the incident.
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If the shooter only pulled his gun due to being shot at, I'd still say he COULD be a good guy with a gun.
Im not arguing that he didnt have a right to defend himself.
But people are acting like this was some random guy at the club who saw the shooter, and stopped him, when in reality they had been arguing. When shot at, he returned fire.
This was an argument that escalated into a shooting. Alcohol and guns dont mix.
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No, that isn't what the article says:
"Deputies said 32-year-old Jody Ray Thompson pulled out a gun after getting into an argument with another man and fired several rounds toward a crowd that had gathered out in front of the club.
"His rounds struck 3 victims, and almost struck a fourth victim, who in self-defense, pulled his own weapon and fired, striking Thompson in the leg," Lt. Kevin Bobo said."
The guy who was nearly the 4th victim pulled his gun, not the guy the perp was arguing with.
Good guy with a gun defuses deranged idiot with a gun.
The wording of the article matters.
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His rounds struck 3 victims, and almost struck a fourth victim, who in self-defense, pulled his own weapon and fired, striking Thompson in the leg," Lt. Kevin Bobo said."
Bobo said the man who shot Thompson has a valid concealed weapons permit, cooperated with investigators, and won’t be facing any charges.
The structure of the sentences insinuates that the man who returned fire was the one who he was arguing with him.
Im again, im not arguing about the right to defend his or her self, im debating the definition of "Good guy with a gun" which usually means a random bystander, Bouncer, law enforcement.
Not the person in the argument.
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