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Old 07-09-2016, 12:12 AM
 
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this cop has a lot of blood on his hands now.
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Old 07-09-2016, 06:52 AM
 
Location: alexandria, VA
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Has it been officially established that Sterling had a gun? And if so what kind? All I can find out is that supposedly he had a "black semi-auto pistol" in his pocket. Was it loaded with a round in the chamber ready to fire? What caliber, make and model, etc. I would think the police would want to get this info out as it would tend to support their version of events.
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:12 AM
 
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What do you not understand about the man not having any skills that would qualify him for any job I personally would be hiring for? That if he had the skills he would get the job? Or is he supposed to be hired even if he is not qualified for the job?

Yes, he should have gotten training that would allow him to get a job rather than choosing to join a gang and engage in criminal behavior.

What do you not get about not hiring someone all the while telling them they "should" have had a job? You sound like one of those kinds of employers who tell the unemployed to "get a job" all the while disregarding them all because they are unemployed.

And you are still a hypocrite. You seem to have a lot of hatred built up in you over this guy. Simmer down.
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:17 AM
 
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Why was this man not incarcerated? With his record of multiple assaults and a rape, and other convictions, he should have been imprisoned. That doesn't excuse what the cops did IF they didn't have a reason.
The cops may have known about his history and he resisted arrest before, which, led to high tension. If one looks at the history of most who have been killed they had some kind of run in with the law and all of them were repeat offenders.


Including the guy selling CD's many people who knew him are saying he was not a gentle giant. Known to carry a gun and had attacked police before.
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:19 AM
 
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For all those who don't believe blacks are sick and tired of black on black crime too need to watch this video. We all know what's going on and we are fed up with it too. But that won't stop us from speaking out against the injustice that's done to blacks by our government and police officers


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OK you are sick of it. Why do you keep voting for more government that subsidizes urban decay that always leads to authoritarianism? Give me a solution.
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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What do you not get about not hiring someone all the while telling them they "should" have had a job? You sound like one of those kinds of employers who tell the unemployed to "get a job" all the while disregarding them all because they are unemployed.

And you are still a hypocrite. You seem to have a lot of hatred built up in you over this guy. Simmer down.
I do not hate him. I pity him.

How could I hire him if he did not have the training to do the job? The last person I hired has an MBA. Should I have hired Sterling instead?

You still do not understand that Sterling made decisions that virtually guaranteed no one would want to hire him, and it's because of those decisions, not just because he is black.

Being a registered sex offender would prevent him from ever working in proximity to children. Being black has nothing to do with it.

Would you hire a thief? Being black has nothing to do with it.

Would you hire someone who sold illegal drugs - and probably used them? Being black has nothing to do with it.

Being black did not get Sterling dead. Being a criminal did.
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Old 07-09-2016, 09:45 AM
 
Location: Palo Alto
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OK you are sick of it. Why do you keep voting for more government that subsidizes urban decay that always leads to authoritarianism? Give me a solution.

The solution is dispersion.

The liberal elite will NEVER let that happen.
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Old 07-09-2016, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Hyrule
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For all those who don't believe blacks are sick and tired of black on black crime too need to watch this video. We all know what's going on and we are fed up with it too. But that won't stop us from speaking out against the injustice that's done to blacks by our government and police officers


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I believe they are, and the police will experience it with them with profiling and fear. They are no different. They are human. Blacks profile other blacks and fear other blacks. Police are in a war environment in areas of high crime.

There will always be casualties in war, innocent lives will be lost in battle. There is no way to stop this. We are human. We have them in every war we fight. The police already do a pretty good job statically speaking to limit the number of casualties.

It's not personal, but of course, it will cause an emotional response because we are all just human. In areas of high crime, there will be more mishaps, more mistakes, and more casualties. More black on black crime means more police incidents increasing the likelihood of a mistake.

Police officers are in a unique position, they are essentially in a hostile environment like a soldier all the time, for years. They will profile, they will become less emotional and anyone in their position would do the same. They die out there. They deal with people you'd never step foot around.

On top of that very few emotionally driven, left leaning individuals ever join the force or the military. They can't stomach it or they don't agree with it. So, the police force draws fighters, strong justice seekers and ex-military.

We will have human error and statistical mistakes to deal with as well as an emotional video soaked public hating them. Most of whom would never do their job and have no idea what a day in the life even looks like yet they are vocal and emotional. When you look at it logically, they've done a good job keeping those numbers down despite all odds against it.

The only thing this emotional reaction and video pumping phase will do is encourage people to leave the force. It will also discourage recruits. We will have a dwindling police force. It also increases division and increases fear on both sides. This ironically will lead to more casualties.

The only way to have a police force that statistically can achieve what you want will have to be robotic. They won't fear their own loss of life. Won't have families they don't want to leave widowed. They won't profile for protection to keep safe in a hostile environment. That is a long way off......, until then you are dealing with humans.

Humans profile, feel fear, make judgement calls that aren't always correct and have mental issues you can't see. You won't find a solution to your problem, there is none. Casualties and innocent lives lost are unavoidable statistically. Especially in a poor crime ridden area with increased crime and murder rates and therefore police presence. That is to be expected. It's sad there isn't a perfect solution, but there really is not.

On a good note, if we can help these areas find a solution to the poverty and gang issues, their chances of becoming a casualty of war will go down. So that should be the focus. I feel for all sides because there is no solution to this problem that we've ever found in war or with the police force. Stats.
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Old 07-11-2016, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Then why say he should have had a job? If it was virtually guaranteed no one would hire him, then why sit on your ivory tower and claim he should have had a job?
Are you being deliberately obtuse? If he had chosen to get training that would provide him with the skills to get a job before he joined a gang, started selling drugs, decided to carry a gun, and fathered five children he could not support, he would very likely be alive today.

He is dead because he resisted being arrested and continued to resist after he was told that if he reached for a gun he would be shot.

He had a history of taunting the police during previous arrests. He did not get killed then because he was disarmed.

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Prove it. That is simply your opinion and one that you cannot prove. You cannot have possibly known those cops' motives and what was in their minds.
All I saw in the videos was two cops wrestling with a very large man who was not letting them handcuff him. They were attempting to arrest him because of the report he had aimed a gun at someone. Should they not have done that? Should he get a pass for being black? What evidence do you have that the incident happened solely because he is black?
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Old 07-11-2016, 03:28 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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He had been incarcerated and released on parole shortly before his death.

UPDATED: 7 Things You Need To Know About Alton Sterling | Daily Wire
And he knew that, as a felon on parole in possession of a gun,
he was on his way back to prison for a long stretch.
He didn't want to...and he didn't.

Another martyred hero for the BLM movement.
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