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Old 07-06-2016, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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You are at such a shallow level of understanding here. It's way past Dems v. Pubs.

The FBI had to rewrite the law to include an intent element that Congress did not intend for this criminal statute. The FBI added that if a person does violate this law, even though in the past they would be criminally charged--whether Democrat or Republican--that person would now, due to the overhaul of the law, have had to intend to harm the US, which she did not do.

Congress did not pass this statute that criminalized gross negligence with that additional element in the law. She so clearly violated the law, the FBI described her actions as "careless" and "reckless," failed in her obligation to keep national security secrets which likely got in the hands of foreign governments.

This is serious. I know you may not understand, but this is serious. I cannot understand why she thinks she is qualified to be President of the United States. No integrity whatsoever. I can't understand why Democrats are not demanding the DNC put in someone worthy of the office. I would insist Biden run at a minimum.

FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook | National Review
Why do you feel this is sufficient for criminal charges based on past history and other secretaries of state and other cabinet members. What precedent has there been relative to other officials
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: DC
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Paul Ryan against James Comey is like sending Bart Simpson into a MENSA meeting. Ryan will get butchered.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:15 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Comey is a lifelong Republican. He also has the reputation for being impossible to muscle politically and he is in year 3 of a ten year term. He can't be fired by the President. The conclusions and recommendation were his own.
Not only this, but people in both parties have always said he's above reproach and able to remain fair without letting politics get in the way.

I don't know what happened that they were unable to recommend prosecution, but I don't think he can be bought. In fact, when the hacks in the Bush administration wanted to push something through he felt was a violation of the constitution, he put his letter of resignation on the President's desk. Bush and his cronies backed down at that point. And Comey doesn't talk about it, but others have stated he's Republican.

I didn't like his position during the Apple case, I'm disappointed by this outcome, but I think Comey is one of the few people worthy of respect and trust in government right now, so I'll be interested in hearing what he has to say during his testimony.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:19 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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She is going to rattle some big skeletons in those closets , and they doing everything they can, to keep her from that place of power !
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:22 PM
 
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You are at such a shallow level of understanding here. It's way past Dems v. Pubs.

The FBI had to rewrite the law to include an intent element that Congress did not intend for this criminal statute. The FBI added that if a person does violate this law, even though in the past they would be criminally charged--whether Democrat or Republican--that person would now, due to the overhaul of the law, have had to intend to harm the US, which she did not do.

Congress did not pass this statute that criminalized gross negligence with that additional element in the law. She so clearly violated the law, the FBI described her actions as "careless" and "reckless," failed in her obligation to keep national security secrets which likely got in the hands of foreign governments.

This is serious. I know you may not understand, but this is serious. I cannot understand why she thinks she is qualified to be President of the United States. No integrity whatsoever. I can't understand why Democrats are not demanding the DNC put in someone worthy of the office. I would insist Biden run at a minimum.

FBI Rewrites Federal Law to Let Hillary Off the Hook | National Review
That is the real issue-

1. Is there uniform enforcement of justice in america?

2. Are high ranking politicians now immune to prosecution?

3. Can the FBI rewrite the law?

4. Can the FBI "refuse to prosecute" (I thought thier job was enforcement).

5. Was a deal made between the Clintons and the Obama admin?

6. Would another citizen be sent for consideration of prosecution in the same situation?

7, IS the Clinton Foundation investigation (which is being conducted by individual states and foreign nations), now completely forbidden?
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:24 PM
 
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Why do you feel this is sufficient for criminal charges based on past history and other secretaries of state and other cabinet members. What precedent has there been relative to other officials
We can start with colin powell....my oh my how short the left's memories are.....
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:33 PM
 
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That is the real issue-

1. Is there uniform enforcement of justice in america?

2. Are high ranking politicians now immune to prosecution?

3. Can the FBI rewrite the law?

4. Can the FBI "refuse to prosecute" (I thought thier job was enforcement).

5. Was a deal made between the Clintons and the Obama admin?

6. Would another citizen be sent for consideration of prosecution in the same situation?

7, IS the Clinton Foundation investigation (which is being conducted by individual states and foreign nations), now completely forbidden?
These are all super questions. I expect Comey to obfuscate his way through the questioning. However, my one hundred C-D bucks say there ain't no Perry Mason moment (most all the kids here have no idea what I'm talking about) coming to that hearing.

El Nox
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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That is the real issue-

1. Is there uniform enforcement of justice in america?

2. Are high ranking politicians now immune to prosecution?

3. Can the FBI rewrite the law?

4. Can the FBI "refuse to prosecute" (I thought thier job was enforcement).

5. Was a deal made between the Clintons and the Obama admin?

6. Would another citizen be sent for consideration of prosecution in the same situation?

7, IS the Clinton Foundation investigation (which is being conducted by individual states and foreign nations), now completely forbidden?

In matters like this, their role is to investigate and make a recommendation to the DOJ who then makes the final decision on what to do.

That's why when she got caught in her private meeing, Lynch - who didn't want to do the right thing and recuse herself from this case - said she would accept whatever the FBI recommended.

I'm thinking they just didn't have enough irrefutable evidence to nail the teflon queen, because even if there was a deal, and I believe there was between Lynch and the Clinton's, that wouldn't stop Comey from making a recommendation, and making it public - kind of painting the DOJ into a corner.

He very carefully did something he doesn't do, however, in making an announcement on his findings. He then used that to blast Hillary before reminding people that others in similar situations had received sanctions and other consequences. He did that to let the public know that that is what should happen. But we all know it won't.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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Comey had no qualms putting Martha Stewart in jail, but the Clinton Liar's duo lies and gets away with it.
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Old 07-06-2016, 07:51 PM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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Comey had no qualms putting Martha Stewart in jail, but the Clinton Liar's duo lies and gets away with it.
The only similarity in cases is that both defendants are women.

People should stop reading pap online and spewing it here, as though it makes any sense.
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