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Old 07-06-2016, 08:39 PM
 
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Government, enemy of all humanity. The founders had one major flaw, they wrote a document that created the very thing they just unshackled themselves from. Government. Whether left or right, religious or not, this country has one God and only one God. That God is called government.

End government and you end most of humanities problems...
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:44 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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This will go over real well on this forum lol.

Raging statist megalomaniacs who sit by their window on trash night just hoping their neighbor puts his rubbish to the curb before "legal" time via local ordinance so they can call the fuzz on him.

I just had one poster claim "you don't own yourself" to me in another thread.

They love their shackles. No two ways about it.
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Old 07-06-2016, 08:44 PM
 
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rubbish. back in the day, the founders wanted a WEAK federal government, and a weak president, to prevent the very things of having a king run the country. and they succeeded. the problem though is that presidents always want more power, so they fight with congress to get it. for the most part congress wins, however in a few cases the rpesident has won. FDR, obama, and nixon are a few who garnered more power for the president.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:04 PM
 
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rubbish.
Your rubbish is rubbish. There is no such thing as a "weak" government. Government is, by definition, creating a set of rules for the "rulers" that the general public doesn't have. Once you grant a third party the ability to steal the common mans wealth you stop being "weak" and start being totalitarian.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:15 PM
 
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Your rubbish is rubbish. There is no such thing as a "weak" government. Government is, by definition, creating a set of rules for the "rulers" that the general public doesn't have. Once you grant a third party the ability to steal the common mans wealth you stop being "weak" and start being totalitarian.
why dont you READ the constitution, it was created precisely to tell what the job of the federal government is, including a division of powers, and the first ten amendments telling what the federal government is NOT allowed to do, in fact they also cover the states as well. and note that the tenth amendment states essentially that the powers not given to the federal government by the people or the states, are reserved for those entities and not the feds. the federal government was designed to be weak compared to the states. and the president is not a dictator, though some run the office like they think they are dictators.

and you can tell the difference. if the president of this country were to give a citizen an order, the citizen can tell the president to go pound sand, and nothing can be done to the citizen. on the other hand in a dictatorship, such as north korea, if the dear leader gives a subject an order, and the subject tells dear leader to go pound sand, the citizen can be locked up for as long a dear leader wants.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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End government and you end most of humanities problems...
And start a host of other problems.

Anyway, one man's god is another man's dog.

[shrug]
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:23 PM
 
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Funny how you conservatives wanted to tell 25 million Iraqis how to live.

Don't like it when the shoe is on your foot,huh?
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:25 PM
 
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Funny how you conservatives wanted to tell 25 million Iraqis how to live.

Don't like it when the shoe is on your foot,huh?
I'm more liberal than you. You want the government to get out of the bedroom, I want the government to get out....
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:29 PM
 
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I'm more liberal than you. You want the government to get out of the bedroom, I want the government to get out....
That is mildly preposterous.

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Old 07-06-2016, 09:31 PM
 
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Funny how you conservatives wanted to tell 25 million Iraqis how to live.

Don't like it when the shoe is on your foot,huh?
The vote was 78-23, it was a democrat controlled congress. Please spare me the "liberals are anti war" bull**** because you aren't. As long as you say your prayers to government you'll be okay, right?
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