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Old 07-15-2016, 06:11 AM
 
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You make decent points, but you fail to understand the psychology of a person with ZERO hope, distrust of the system, and no positive encouragement for generations. Add to that a 24/7 level of stress due to having NO future, feeling discriminated and you end up with a person that basically has NOTHING to lose---------a person whose only avenue to gain some recognition is crime.
People who believe and wallow in perpetual victim hood will always be victims.

End all welfare. Hunger is a powerful motivator to get a job.
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:27 AM
 
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You make decent points, but you fail to understand the psychology of a person with ZERO hope, distrust of the system, and no positive encouragement for generations. Add to that a 24/7 level of stress due to having NO future, feeling discriminated and you end up with a person that basically has NOTHING to lose---------a person whose only avenue to gain some recognition is crime.
That's not strictly a racial problem. That's a class issue.


That's not a reason to commit crime.
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:30 AM
 
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That Obama won the presidency did not help.

Blacks have little power and remain victims of their history in the US.

What can be done?

Electing black leaders does not do the job. What are the alternatives. More of the same?
Your first mistake was saying a black leader was elected. If I'm not mistaken, obama was elected president, and there is nothing about that man that would qualify him as a leader.
obama had been nothing but a great divider of the races and has done nothing for blacks.
The blacks who wish to succeed have done so, skin color doesn't hold one back, attitude does.
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:31 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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No group of people on this planet have historically been more prejudiced against, sexually tortured, enslaved, threatened, and held back than women.

I have experienced prejudice, humiliation, fear, and inequality from men.
So what?
In balance, most of my best promoters, supporters, and helpers in life have also been men.
My husband of thirty two years is my best friend and has supported every one of my endeavors even the failures.

Stop whining about racism. It will never totally go away. For every supposed racist moment you have experienced from a white person, I guarantee the majority of your experiences with white people were not racist .
The vast majority of whites are NOT racist. But they are getting fed up with all the race baiting and lack of truthful introspection on what is really holding many blacks back.


As a woman, I was also thinking the EXACT same thing. And even though we're now in the 21st century, my daughters, who have degrees in and work in male-dominated fields, face sexism and discrimination every single day. Does that make them sit back and whine, "Poor me... I'm oppressed?" HELL no!!! They work their butts off, make NO excuses, and that has earned them the respect and support of all but the most staunchly and stubbornly sexist males with whom they work.
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:54 AM
 
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Regardless of the causes: There is a massive problem with race relations and many American Blacks are simply going nowhere.
And some are extremely successful. Identify their differences, and you'll have the solution.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:01 AM
 
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Default African Americans are oppressed. Why is this so hard to understand by the right?

It's because Limbaugh and Fox News haven't told them yet. They're actually very selective about what reality they allow into their little world.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:12 AM
 
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And some are extremely successful. Identify their differences, and you'll have the solution.
The solution is a strong family.



How do you change a culture.


How do you transform a German into an Italian? Easier said than done.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:14 AM
 
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As a woman, I was also thinking the EXACT same thing. And even though we're now in the 21st century, my daughters, who have degrees in and work in male-dominated fields, face sexism and discrimination every single day. Does that make them sit back and whine, "Poor me... I'm oppressed?" HELL no!!! They work their butts off, make NO excuses, and that has earned them the respect and support of all but the most staunchly and stubbornly sexist males with whom they work.
Your daughters are not black. They do not live in the inner city or descend from slaves.
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:18 AM
 
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Work harder. Okay, although why should a Black person have to work harder than a White person just to "prove" himself.
Same reason why ANYONE has to work harder than others to "prove" themselves. How do you not understand that?

Even in lefty, Black-friendly academia, what's the meme? Publish or perish. What do you think that means?
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Old 07-15-2016, 07:38 AM
 
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The solution is a strong family.

How do you change a culture.
Remove the social welfare crutches on which they're disproportionately and overly dependent. Remember the lefty academia meme I posted, publish or perish? Same thing... support oneself and one's dependents or perish.
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