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Old 07-15-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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Everyone really needs to think about this. No other President has been expected to talk about murder rates in the Black population. Only President Obama. Kind of crazy if you ask me.
When you step up to the podium time after time and infer or directly say that police shooting black people is about racism, then you have to address the whole issue.
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Old 07-15-2016, 01:04 PM
 
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Most people who die from violent crimes are Blacks. However, most people who see the death penalty killed non-Blacks.

The reason I disagree with some of your assessment is because I look at history. Blacks have always been looked down on. Every generation it's "Black peril". Why should I believe this is any different? What do you want the President to say? "Black people are a problem and should be dealt with harsher than anyone else?".

BTW, if you look at the statistics, violent crime over all has been dropping precipitously over the last 25 years. Murder rates today are similar to what they were in 1960.

The only way progress will take place is if ALL parties involve benefit.
I agree with all the things you have said above...


here is my issue. we are spending vast sums of national energy on how terrible things are... yet as you point out, things are better now than in a very long time.


America is less racist than it has ever been. EVER. That doesn't mean America is free. It isn't .




but we haven't spent the smallest fraction of our national energy talking about what we have done that is right.


unless and until we start talking about what we are doing well... and giving voice to it, we are going to get more of the bad and less of the good.




I want solutions and you will never hear me suggest that things are wonderful or that there is no issue...but I cant just focus all energy on what is wrong.... especially when the focus doesn't recognize the vast good that is out there.
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Old 07-15-2016, 05:18 PM
 
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When you step up to the podium time after time and infer or directly say that police shooting black people is about racism, then you have to address the whole issue.
Well, he hasn't done much to stop more stuff like that either. Politicians talk, but don't do that much. The President is not that much different.
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Old 07-15-2016, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Obama proving the adage 'even a broken clock is right twice a day'. It's empty and meaningless from him though because even though he points out that it's a very small, specific, demographic that is causing it he continues to push for laws restricting everyone else that will do absolutely nothing to solve the problem.
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Old 07-15-2016, 05:31 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Is this like the first time he's ever called it like it is, but only after years of mounting criticism?

https://gma.yahoo.com/obama-murder-r...opstories.html
Is he just now discovering this?
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Old 07-15-2016, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Is this like the first time he's ever called it like it is, but only after years of mounting criticism?

https://gma.yahoo.com/obama-murder-r...opstories.html
Nope, some people only listen for criticism of blacks and ignore everything else that is said... Case in point...
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:03 PM
 
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Obama proving the adage 'even a broken clock is right twice a day'. It's empty and meaningless from him though because even though he points out that it's a very small, specific, demographic that is causing it he continues to push for laws restricting everyone else that will do absolutely nothing to solve the problem.
What do you expect him to do? No President has ever solved such problems that are being spoken of. I don't expect President Obama to solve this problem.
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:04 PM
 
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Nope, some people only listen for criticism of blacks and ignore everything else that is said... Case in point...
In particular, criticism of Black men.
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:05 PM
 
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I don't know if Obama acknowledged the out of whack homicide rate in black urban areas before this. I don't care.


Look at his response to handling it. Not once did he mention families, self-control, personal responsibility, community involvement. His first 'solution' --- 'investing' in those dangerous areas, such as after school programs. And of course fewer guns. Then on to his support for BLM and misrepresenting what they stand for. Finally, cops should be kinder and more compassionate, investigations more transparent.


It was, overall, a sickening response.
What's wrong with that? Should government agents have the impunity to kill at will?
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Old 07-15-2016, 06:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Is this like the first time he's ever called it like it is, but only after years of mounting criticism?

https://gma.yahoo.com/obama-murder-r...opstories.html
Obama ignored it for 71/2 years.. now he says something.. kind of late.
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