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Old 07-16-2016, 05:55 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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So you oppose Hillary and Obama siding against the coup.
Apparently there is a US or UN resolution enacted in 1961 that stated the US/UN would never take the side of a military coup in another country, unless and until a new government is democratically elected.

I tried to find a reference to that but was unsuccessful.

Someone on CNN last night gave it a passing mention without any detail.

So, if that's the case, Obama did not have a choice in the matter; he had to side with the existing government. What he may think personally is anyone's guess.
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Old 07-16-2016, 06:35 AM
 
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Apparently there is a US or UN resolution enacted in 1961 that stated the US/UN would never take the side of a military coup in another country, unless and until a new government is democratically elected.

I tried to find a reference to that but was unsuccessful.

Someone on CNN last night gave it a passing mention without any detail.

So, if that's the case, Obama did not have a choice in the matter; he had to side with the existing government. What he may think personally is anyone's guess.
Not supporting coups of democratically elected governments is US policy. Of course, we have supported coups overthrowing dictators, with mixed results.

Anyway, I agree that it was wise for President Obama to not voice support this ill-fated coup, which appears to have involved a small segment of the Turkish army (I suppose they felt the remainder of the armed forces would join in, as well as the state-controlled police).

I have visited Turkey three times, and love the country. It has been disheartening to see it drift, under the current president (president since 2003) towards a religious, Islamic state. As you say, the people coming out on the streets to defy the army will embolden the president even more in his agenda.
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Old 07-16-2016, 07:07 AM
 
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The military was not prepared to massacre the civilians
who answered Erdogan's call to rise up, so the coup failed.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:43 AM
 
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We know your a liar, you've posted plenty of anti-Obama and lefties threads.
Actually I support Gay marriage, Women equality, and Minority rights in Muslim countries, but that means criticizing >>>> Islam.

Which political party in US would support me in criticizing Islam? Not the Islamophilic Democrats.

Infact, I can claim I am the most Liberal person on this forum, since being a Liberal in US is a joke - solving first world problems. The toughest Liberal position is to be one for a Muslim country, cause the vast majority of Muslims who are non-Liberals will sympathize with those Muslims who are ready to chop your head off.
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:53 AM
 
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put a fence around the muslim world and move on...
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Old 07-16-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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I am the Obama, the Noam Chomsky, the Michael Moore, the Clintons.....of the Muslim world. I support everything that the Democrats say they supposedly want (but in the Muslim world), but for me to change the Muslim world, Islam has to be criticized.

When I criticize Islam, like Democrats criticize Christianity, Democrats start attacking me instead of supporting me.
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Old 07-16-2016, 10:33 AM
 
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Welp, they didn't waste a whole lot of time getting down to business.



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"Turkey's state-run news agency says a top body overseeing judges and prosecutors has dismissed 2,745 judges across the country. Anadolu Agency says the emergency meeting of the Judges and Prosecutors High Council was held Saturday, hours after Turkish forces quashed an attempted coup"

News from The Associated Press
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:12 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Yep-

This is great. Obama's ideological allies are on the run around the globe..
Why is it great? 260 dead and 1400 wounded.
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Happened in Egypt, lets hope it happens here.
Personally I prefer democratic elections, which are only few months away.
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Old 07-16-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Florida
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There are reports Erdogan landed in Istanbul, if they can capture him, they would have some leverage.

I think the coup plotters expected more support from those not involved in the plot, or maybe there were pledges but they backed out when the time came. Also, maybe they expected more support from the citizens.
It seems it failed because the citizens opposed it.
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