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View Poll Results: Has Obama's policy and rhetoric caused violence against the police?
Yes- Obama has fanned and supported violence against the police 59 60.20%
Yes- Obama has caused violence against the police, but is just incompetent 17 17.35%
No- Obama loves the police and he has done nothing to cause the deaths of police officers 18 18.37%
No- Obama is just incompetent and did not intentionally cause the deaths of police 4 4.08%
Voters: 98. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 07-18-2016, 09:44 AM
 
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Henry Louis Gates wasnt found climbing in a Window, and by the way, if your logic was true, he would have been arrested for suspicion of burglary. Instead he was charged with misconduct and that was dropped.

So, yes, it was bad policing as the charges didnt stick and obviously should have never been given in the first place.

Not sure what you mean by the second one.
It had been a while since the Gates issue.

You're right, he wasn't found climbing through a window. Police were responding to a burglary call. When they showed up, the front door was damaged from Gates and his driver tried to force it open. The police requested an ID to verify Gates was a resident of the home.

Gates began yelling and insulting the police. Gates was warned twice that if he didn't calm down and stop yelling, he'd be arrested for disorderly conduct. He refused and then was arrested.

Obama then told America that the police "acted stupidly".
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:47 AM
 
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That is absurd. Your contention would suggest that any rhetoric, speeches, or propaganda would have ZERO influence on behavior. The balance of human history would refute your contention.

Obama, through inflammatory rhetoric and passive support of attacks on police, has fomented this wave of violence.
No he hasn't, that's simply con fantasy, not reality.
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:50 AM
 
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Barack obama is the leader of Black Lives Matter, an American terrorist origination
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Old 07-18-2016, 09:54 AM
 
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No he hasn't, that's simply con fantasy, not reality.
Yes he has. It started with "the police acted stupidly" and continued with "remember this young man (Mike Brown)".

He essentially gave credence to the claims of race pimps that cops were targeting blacks.
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Old 07-18-2016, 10:31 AM
 
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Yes he has. It started with "the police acted stupidly" and continued with "remember this young man (Mike Brown)".

He essentially gave credence to the claims of race pimps that cops were targeting blacks.
Nope, sorry, simply the imagination of cons. Amazing how they can twist things to fit their agenda.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Planet Telex
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I wonder how long the mods on the site are going to let the far left extremists fling the "you're a racist" accusation at anyone who disagrees with them?
Actually, if you dig deep into Caleb's posting history, you'll find plenty of racist remarks by him so I stand by my comment. I'm also libertarian by the way.

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Old 07-18-2016, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Sarasota, FL
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Yes he has. It started with "the police acted stupidly" and continued with "remember this young man (Mike Brown)".

He essentially gave credence to the claims of race pimps that cops were targeting blacks.

Whether he likes it or not, Obama asked for the job of Chief Law Enforcement Officer and has the obligation to act accordingly. If he wants to propose specific measures, initiatives etc. to address what he perceives are problems with our police, he can do so in a way that is supportive of LEOs and recognizes their side of the problem. But he has taken the podium and spoken as tho he is not the President of the U.S., who acts in the interests of all Americans, but is instead acting as some kind of community organizer with an anti-cop agenda.


I never liked his views all that much, but I've tried to respect him for his Office. That has become increasingly hard to do.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:19 PM
 
Location: NJ
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Do you believe that Obama's rhetoric, support of violent political groups, and lack of a formal FBI evaluation of violence against police has caused the killings of police officers in America?

Will Hillary, as she supports the same policies, continue to support the war against the police force?

If we can believe pelosi, obama's rhetoric leads to violence.


Remember when hoffa jr got up before obama spoke and encourged members to take out hose SOBs? Obama stood up to speak and just smiled. He made no attempt to quell the call to violence.
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Old 07-18-2016, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Well it was Boston, Florida, Ferguson, Baltimore, Baton Rouge, Minneapolis (just the high spots).

I can't help but wonder what situation we would be in today IF Obama had just said something along the lines of ...... "The Administration & DOJ will follow this case closely -- BUT we need to wait until an investigation is completed. Everyone should stay calm and KNOW that we will aid in the investigation. The last thing anyone should do is Rush to Judgement."

How many businesses would not have been Looted or Burned?
How any lives would have been saved?
How many jobs/careers would have been saved?
How much money would have been saved?
Ferguson, MO alone will possibly not ever recover.

He just couldn't do it - once, maybe even twice - might have been "unintentional", BUT time after time - he jumps to conclusions without waiting for any investigation.
That's not an accident - that's an Agenda of some sort.
The dead bodies are piling up & he is in full excuse mode all the time now,
He could have chosen his words more carefully in Ferguson but he is not to blame for the rioting, plenty of outside interests making statements and out of control protestors from both outside the communities and within. There was no stopping Ferguson, there was plenty of reason the way those people were treated even outside of the Brown shooting.


Words do matter but the degree of unrest in many of these places was going to turn to violent protests at some point. Funny how little is being said about the Minnesota governors statement on the shooting.


Obama is also criticized by the black community, they expected a superman to solve all these problems, it's definitely a balancing act.
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Old 08-05-2016, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Southeast, where else?
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LOL! I love how you skipped right over the Bushes! Further proof that the Bush years never existed in the minds of southern, racist conservative.
LOL, I love your pat answer. Whenever a member of your party, the Democrats, the party of inclusion, gets a differing and ACCURATE and DOCUMENTED statement, the race cards come out......keep leaning on the crutch...who knows, it might even help you some day...and I guess you missed the poll.....56 of them can't all be wrong....can they?

Heh...heh....heh......truth hurts....don't it?
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