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Old 07-19-2016, 09:14 AM
 
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Which means they should have been in THAT thread. Hijacking this thread to make "slaps" at some other group of people is... well... asinine.
If you say so. I say it's all related.

 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:15 AM
 
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A little maybe but the overall point stands. Those who commit the most violence in the world have no moral standing in condemning it in others.

Should the treatment of women elsewhere be condemned? Absolutely but nobody is going to listen to us making it.

If we want to hold the high ground we need to address our violence on others.

So your "overall point" is that the USA "commits the most violence in the world"?

Am I understanding you correctly here?
 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:16 AM
 
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Absolutely. People here defend the killing of innocent women and children all the time. We blew up a hospital. Where was the condemnation? The excuse was "there will be collateral damage".

Is stabbing 4 people worse than blowing up a hospital killing doctors, women and children? Do you not understand that when we do things like that all our condemnation of other violence become just more noise to the ones we want to condemn?
You are under the widely held misconception that anything we do, or say somehow has an impact on these fundamentalist Muslims. Have you read the Koran?
 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:19 AM
 
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My solution? People who have nothing have nothing to lose. The first thing we need to do is to quit destroying what little they have. We complain about refugee's but what are they to do? We've blown their houses and businesses up.

Do you think that if we quit doing that fewer will look to coming here? Is that part of the reason Obama is bomb happy? It's a question I can not answer but nobody can answer as to why we got involved in the first place.


The Muslims have been warring with each other and the Jews and the Christians LONG LONG before there ever was such a thing as the USA.

Read some history books for Pete's sake!
 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:22 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default Attacks on children are almost universally forbidden

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Well then we should just get used to more of these attacks, because we will never be perfect enough to justifiably condemn these barbaric attacks.
Of course we - the US, & the West in general, can condemn these attacks. Yes, in the mechanized way we fight wars, we tend to use area weapons, armor, mines & etc. that may wound or kill bystanders & innocents, if they happen to be near the targeted areas. That is different from a terrorist attack (if that's what this was - it sounds like one), which is targeted against individuals & carried out up close, for maximum gore & impact.


That's the essential difference between conventional military combat & terrorism - combat targets soldiers or targets that affect the enemy's government or military or war production. Terrorism is war on the cheap, basically attacking defenseless people - a woman & her young girls @ breakfast.


If the mere sight of a mother & her children in shorts & t-shirts is unacceptable to someone, the attacker likely needs to withdraw from the West. (Assuming that the attacker is Islamic, & that that is what impelled him to attack this family.)
 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:23 AM
 
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Liberals will Blame the guns!

This religion that is called "peaceful" by President Obama is not showing to be "peaceful" unless you do what they say and I start to wonder if Obama wants us to act like they want us to act so he can say "you see they are peaceful".
 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:24 AM
 
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sick.

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It is believed the woman and her daughters were wearing shorts and T-shirts at the time of the stabbing.

The youngest victim, who was eight years old, was the most badly wounded and is currently in a critical condition in hospital after suffering a punctured lung.
 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Let me keep it simple for some of you here,

The only thing all rape victims have in common was being in the presence of a rapist. From infants to the elderly, age, race, dress, sobriety, none of that matters. What matters is that someone decided to commit a violent assault against someone who either didn’t consent, or who couldn’t consent, either because of age or incapacitation.

Same logic applies here. The person who stabbed this mother and her three children need to be eliminated. Quit finding excuses for such savages.
 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:25 AM
 
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"Mother and 3 daughters stabbed by Muslim in France for being scantily dressed"

They were dressed in shorts and t-shirts? I hate to think what would have happened at a topless beach.
 
Old 07-19-2016, 09:27 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Default What is their status, exactly? Is it permanent?

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And Hillary and Obama want to flood the country with Muslim immigrants...the American public be damned.
Are we talking about immigrants - permanent residents to the US? Or are we talking about temporary political or humanitarian refugees? & how many refugees are we talking about?


If they're temporary - then I assume that without a family or some other support network in the US - that most of these refugees will return to their country of origin or to some Islamic country where they can function the way they used to in their home country.
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