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Originally Posted by Cliftonpdx If you want to back up your claim, you will need to post evidence of this happening. I don't live in California, so I don't have any interest in what their laws say.
Except that the law is "open to interpretation" and the police, district attorneys, and judges aren't following the law as written.
Example: a man was arguing with his wife and threatening to divorce her. Three days later she called 911, in a drunken stupor, and claimed he was suicidal. The police "detained" him - keep in mind being detained isn't being arrested - they confiscated his one handgun and then made the decision that neither of them should be able to own a gun. He was placed on a 72 hour hold and released in just 10 hours. The wife tried to recant when she realized what she had done, and the cops ignored her pleas. Tough sh5t the damage was done.
If he had fought this ridiculous charge, which breaks all Constitutional laws, CA would have denied him and filed with the feds removing his rights for life.
The problem is the entire case was based on him saying "you're killing me"
Have any of you ever said that? I'd bet EVERY ONE OF YOU has in the past as a facetious sarcasm.
Guess what... the guy lost his rights for 5 years, for being sarcastic.
Yea, we are being disarmed and I don't care what state you live in, this is happening everywhere... so wise up!
Originally Posted by Cliftonpdx If you want to back up your claim, you will need to post evidence of this happening. I don't live in California, so I don't have any interest in what their laws say.
Except that the law is "open to interpretation" and the police, district attorneys, and judges aren't following the law as written.
Example: a man was arguing with his wife and threatening to divorce her. Three days later she called 911, in a drunken stupor, and claimed he was suicidal. The police "detained" him - keep in mind being detained isn't being arrested - they confiscated his one handgun and then made the decision that neither of them should be able to own a gun.
The problem is the entire case was based on him saying "you're killing me"
Have any of you ever said that? I;d bet EVERY ONE OF YOU has in the past as a facetious sarcasm.
Guess what... the guy lost his rights for 5 years, for being sarcastic.
Do you have a link to this story? Though if the police made the decision to confiscate his guns based on his behavior, then it sounds like the right call....though it is hard to say if this is even a real story without any proof to back it up.
I am not like some people on this site, I don't believe everything I read on the Internet.
Do you have a link to this story? Though if the police made the decision to confiscate his guns based on his behavior, then it sounds like the right call....though it is hard to say if this is even a real story without any proof to back it up.
I am not like some people on this site, I don't believe everything I read on the Internet.
Yet YOU WANT ME TO CITE SOMETHING ON THE INTERNET?
You don't have to believe anything. I don't need a link... I was there.
The dude couldn't fight it because they would have arrested his wife for filing a false claim. Shows the character of the dude, eh.
Don't know why you think there should be a link to every story. "They said it on the internet so it must be true"
First hand experience rarely makes credible news.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and fire up a G search in your state. Just do a search for "mental law abuse in -your state here-" and include the quotes. use modifiers such as "TO CONFISCATE WEAPONS" and "TO REMOVE RIGHTS"
Come back and tell me there aren't any horror stories.
If you honestly care about the truth you'll do more than pay lip service while saying you need proof. When you see reams of proof, then you'll know... or prove you don't really give a sht, which then begs "Why did you post a response at all?"
Yet YOU WANT ME TO CITE SOMETHING ON THE INTERNET?
You don't have to believe anything. I don't need a link... I was there.
The dude couldn't fight it because they would have arrested his wife for filing a false claim. Shows the character of the dude, eh.
Don't know why you think there should be a link to every story. "They said it on the internet so it must be true"
First hand experience rarely makes credible news.
Why don't you do yourself a favor and fire up a G search in your state. Just do a search for "mental law abuse in -your state here-" and include the quotes. use modifiers such as "TO CONFISCATE WEAPONS" and "TO REMOVE RIGHTS"
Come back and tell me there aren't any horror stories.
If you honestly care about the truth you'll do more than pay lip service while saying you need proof. When you see reams of proof, then you'll know... or prove you don't really give a sht, which then begs "Why did you post a response at all?"
If you had a printed article that backed up your story, it would be more believable. As of right now, I don't believe your story, it sounds like it is either made up or you have changed the facts to fit your narrative.
Actually Oregon has pretty lenient gun laws. Granted if someone is ordered to seek mental health from a judge, the judge could determine that they shouldn't have access to guns as well. That is something I find to be sensible because if a judge doesn't think you shouldn't have guns, then you probably shouldn't.
Just the other day at work in downtown, I watched a guy walking down the street talking to his imaginary friend in quite a heated argument. It was clear that man was not mentally sane, people like him shouldn't be able to buy a gun, though he probably needs mental health treatment more than he needs to be able to purchase guns.
If you had a printed article that backed up your story, it would be more believable. As of right now, I don't believe your story, it sounds like it is either made up or you have changed the facts to fit your narrative.
You've ignored everything I've said. Personal experience, no reason to lie, gave you a path to find the truth. YOU truly don't give a sht so why are you even here?
You've ignored everything I've said. Personal experience, no reason to lie, gave you a path to find the truth. YOU truly don't give a sht so why are you even here?
I support background checks that check to ensure that the individual is not a legal immigrant/here on a VISA/Illegal Immigrant, has no current restraining orders, has no history of domestic violence, no history of committing a felony, no previous or current history of gang involvement, and has not been incarcerated for 5 or more than 5 years. Other then that I am cool for anyone to have a firearm. Though semi automatics should be locked and stored at a shooting range/only used at an official shooting range facility. For open care and nationwide open carry law/permit. Stricter incarceration for illegall possession of a firearm and using a firearm in any crime.
Hunters and gatherers do not constitute a civilization.
Villages have been discovered to exist more than 12,000 BC..
To protect those encampments and their agriculture(resources), weapons were used. The fight for resources continues today(Middle East for 1000, Alex).
The human mind, created improved weaponry every day, which continues to this day.
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