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Old 07-25-2016, 08:25 AM
 
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My longtime friend who was always a Libertarian told me today that he is now a Republican and will be voting for Trump because he is a "family man" with a wife and kids.

But when you compare the Republican and Democratic parties on the issues, it seems to me that the Democratic Party is MUCH more pro-family than the Republican Party ever has been or ever will be. Democrats have put forth many policies that are pro-family and pro-children.

Paid family leave
Heavy public education investment
Limiting childcare costs to 10% of family income
Universal preschool


...the list goes on...

So please, tell me just how the GOP is better for families than the Democratic Party?!
Why are paid family leave, heavier public education investment than we already have and universal preschool better for families? Why is limited childcare care cost to 10% of family income something the government should be in charge of?

One of the best thing you can do for families is trying to make an economic environment where people are able to work and provide for their families as opposed to giving things to provide for families.

That being said I don't think a good reason to vote for Trump is because he is a family man. Although his children seem to be well adjusted hard working people.
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:03 AM
 
Location: WY
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Simple. Look at cities where Democrats policy has dominated for over a decade. And look at the condition of families there.

And there is your answer.

Your policies DON'T WORK.
This. ^^^^^^

I would also submit that:

1. Controlling the flow of illegals coming across our southern border would decrease the financial burden on our educational system

2. Focusing on bringing high paying jobs back to this country, controlling illegal immigration which depresses wages and takes jobs away from Americans, and establishing policies that encourage business development and business expansion is good for ALL Americans

3. Regardless of the tripe coming out of BLM and the main stream media, LEOs are extremely dedicated to the communities they serve. The sooner spineless city government leaders, elected sheriffs and an agenda-driven/ratings-driven media admit that the better. This administration (and from what I've heard, a Clinton administration would continue it) has set a tone against law enforcement that has contributed to the divisiveness and violence we have seen recently against police officers. I'm not making that up - I'm from a blue family, know many officers and run a pro-LE page. I KNOW how hard officers work to try and establish trust in their communities. I KNOW how good and decent people in poor neighborhoods need and appreciate cops. I KNOW how dangerous this environment of empowerd criminals and disempowered law enforcement is to officers and the citizens they serve.

4. Our military has been gutted under this administration. Top level officers has been dismissed from duty, overall numbers of those serving is down, there has not been major investment in new military technology, and our current technology is being repaired and maintained from scavenged parts and pieces. Add to that a politically correct environment of not wanting to call our enemies what they are and confronting them head on, and national security has been compromised. As the saying goes - our allies don't believe in us and our enemies don't fear us.

5. Liberals want to gut the 2A. Don't deny. Everybody knows it.

As usual, liberals/progressives are putting the cart before the horse. You want policies that contribute to strong families?? A controlled and orderly immigration process. Quality, high paying jobs. Strong communities and a strong military. Without personal security, without national security, without financial security................the rest doesn't mean sh*t.
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:08 AM
 
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Look at the candidates that each party is running this year for POTUS.

Donald Trump has based his campaign on "Americans 1st" while Hillary Clinton will have illegal aliens on staff at the DNC. There couldn't be a more middle finger to the face of American families than Hillary Clinton supporting illegal aliens.
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Old 07-25-2016, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Republican areas are safer, cleaner, have better education systems, less single parents...kids in Republican controlled areas do better than kids in Dem areas like Chicago, Atlanta, St. Louis, Baltimore. Dem policies lead to crime and poor schools and huge income inequalities...all not healthy.
Yet Mississippi regularly rates 49th in education and in the top 5 for teen pregnancy rates.
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Old 07-25-2016, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Iowa
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The GOP is an international embarrassment. No one respects them outside the United States.
Is this a fact or just your opinion? I think the latter.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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The GOP is an international embarrassment. No one respects them outside the United States.
Good lord, where did you get that idea? What did you do, take a survey, asking people throughout the world what they thought of Republicans? Of course I guess if you did, you must speak 100 languages to be able to talk with all these countries.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:19 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Trump a family man??? I was appalled at Jerry Falwell Jr. prostituting himself for Trump at the RNC.."loving family", Christian values.... It was obscene and nauseating.


People criticize the Democrats as "tax and spend". The Republicans are "borrow and spend" to the benefit of the banks and financiers...and foreighners (China, Russia). Our kids have the privelege of paying off the Republican debts. I'd rather have "tax and spend" as a pay-as-you-go policy.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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My longtime friend who was always a Libertarian told me today that he is now a Republican and will be voting for Trump because he is a "family man" with a wife and kids.

But when you compare the Republican and Democratic parties on the issues, it seems to me that the Democratic Party is MUCH more pro-family than the Republican Party ever has been or ever will be. Democrats have put forth many policies that are pro-family and pro-children.

Paid family leave
Heavy public education investment
Limiting childcare costs to 10% of family income
Universal preschool


...the list goes on...

So please, tell me just how the GOP is better for families than the Democratic Party?!
If you were married or a bit older, you might see things in a different light.

Yes, there is family leave program which certainly has benefits, but it also affects the price we pay for many things. When companies have to pay out, they will get the money from the consumer. How does that help anyone?

Yep, public education is so wonderful. look at our school systems compared to many industrial countries? Public education should be controlled by individual school districts, not the federal government. What my district needs might be totally different from what your district needs.

Limited child care costs? So now you think a parent should be able to control how much childcare centers can charge? I don't think you understand.

Universal preschool: where are you getting that and why should the government pay for our kids to go to pre school? Yes, our area has after school programs and pre K, based on income, but not all kids are eligible. Actually many 4 and 5 year olds come from families that make too much money, thus they are not included in the program.

what you are claiming is nothing more than socialism and allowing the government to raise our children. At the same time indoctrinating them into thinking the way a bunch of liberal adults want them to think. Let's leave raising our kids to the family.
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Old 07-25-2016, 01:44 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Gilead
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My longtime friend who was always a Libertarian told me today that he is now a Republican and will be voting for Trump because he is a "family man" with a wife and kids.

But when you compare the Republican and Democratic parties on the issues, it seems to me that the Democratic Party is MUCH more pro-family than the Republican Party ever has been or ever will be. Democrats have put forth many policies that are pro-family and pro-children.

Paid family leave
Heavy public education investment
Limiting childcare costs to 10% of family income
Universal preschool


...the list goes on...

So please, tell me just how the GOP is better for families than the Democratic Party?!
Republicans hate "teh gheys" and that means they have strong "family values".
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Old 07-25-2016, 07:38 PM
 
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Look at the candidates that each party is running this year for POTUS.

Donald Trump has based his campaign on "Americans 1st" while Hillary Clinton will have illegal aliens on staff at the DNC. There couldn't be a more middle finger to the face of American families than Hillary Clinton supporting illegal aliens.

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