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Changing laws is the best way to put an end to Police misconduct. Having cookouts are a waste of time and does nothing to change the current situation is basically what has been said.
What polices?
One organizer told the cops, "she doesn't eat with pigs, she eats them" is this really what you spend time sticking up for?
I'd be damned if I were to go "picnic" with an organization that includes members who have been murdering my family, and sit there passively discussing how we can all "get along" better while they continue to shield the perpetrators and smile in my face. Especially when someone there may have fresh blood on his hands.
If the cops want to have the air cleared, they can start by ceasing the murders and cover-ups, investigating the old complains of violence and police brutality and getting rid of those who's actions show a pattern of abuse or violence.
This is not a social issue that calls for a meet and greet. This is a criminal issue that calls for investigation, court rooms, and findings of fact - followed up by prison sentences.
After that, we can talk about a get-together. But this publicity stunt is NOT the right first move.
Last edited by blktoptrvl; 07-27-2016 at 01:32 AM..
Right and it says in the article why they dont support it, the cookout has nothing to do with their mission
A tweet from the D.C. chapter of BlackLivesMatter said the BBQ is not in line with the principals of the national organization. Cullors said the event in Wichita doesn't bring about change.
We don't sit on panels with law enforcement, and we don't have BBQ's or cookouts with law enforcement. We feel the best method at this point in history is by holding police accountable by organizing and advocating for police accountability," Collors said.
Do you guys get it now. Its a waste of time for them and their mission
I see this repeated over and over again: "held accountable". Which of these high profile police killings did not go before a Grand Jury, at least, let alone a full trial in most cases?
THAT IS ACCOUNTABILITY. It sounds like what they want is an automatic/guaranteed conviction and that is simply not how our justice system works - and rightfully so.
Rarely do you see people being combative right from the start.
Sandra Bland wasn't happy but she did what was asked until the officer took it too far and started harassing her.
Eric Garner was polite at first. Do you think the cops were going to stop and allow him to get a lawyer?
One should strive to be polite to everyone. The police have to understand that people do NOT have to be.
Rude or not they can only go as far as what is legal.
Is selling loose cigarettes illegal in New York? Yes, demonstrably so. Were the police justified in arresting him for doing so? Yes, obviously. Is resisting arrest also against the law, yes, demonstrably so. Did Eric Garner resist? Yes, it's right there on the video.
His case and the poor woman in the body cavity search case are apples and footballs.
No, he wasn't. If you want to have a discussion, let's be accurate about the facts.
He died as a result of (excessive?) force, coupled with a banned (or at least not SOP) restraint technique, used against him when he resisted arrest.
To say "He was killed for selling loosies." is intellectually dishonest, at best, and intentionally deceptive, at worst.
None of what you stated happens if not for the city missing out on a dollar or two in taxes and instructing the force to crack down on it.
He died because the city could not stand the idea of someone not paying the proper tax on a cigarette.
If I use a banned procedure at work and someone is killed, I don't have to wonder what would happen to my job. I would be fired in a second. Not so if you are a NYC police officer going after a few weeks extra cents in taxes.
Is selling loose cigarettes illegal in New York? Yes, demonstrably so. Were the police justified in arresting him for doing so? Yes, obviously. Is resisting arrest also against the law, yes, demonstrably so. Did Eric Garner resist? Yes, it's right there on the video.
He wasn't doing so. He was simply recognized as someone who had done so in the past. The police were called over a fight.
It is NOT against the law to resist an illegal search.
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His case and the poor woman in the body cavity search case are apples and footballs.
Both were the results of illegal searches.
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