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Old 12-10-2016, 02:35 PM
 
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Originally Posted by FlatandFlat View Post
despite your certitude, there have been bi-partisan calls for a Congressional Investigations.
I live in the Rust Belt. Trump was here many times during the campaign and understood the main issue here was jobs. Hillary gave no indication she even got it. Did the Russians make her stupid and remote?
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Old 12-10-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Places you dream of
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Wonder if chaffetz -Dowd will have the same fire ang vigor questioning el trump if it comes close to that possible connection?
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Old 12-11-2016, 06:23 AM
 
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This is just crazy. The russians would get blamed because that would help Hillary and hurt Trump which is what they and the corrupt element in the government want. We're in a pattern of whatever the feds say, just the opposite is true.
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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FBI investigation underway that the cybercrime against the Democratic Party was done by Russian intelligence. At the same time, Trump's deep connections to Putin and his colleagues are being increasingly exposed:

"The theory that Moscow orchestrated the leaks to help Trump, who has repeatedly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and practically called for the end of NATO, is fast gaining currency within the Obama administration because of the timing of the leaks and Trump’s own connections to the Russian government" (source)

Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, worked as a lobbyist for the Russian-backed former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych for more than a decade.

"The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington."

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008... “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

"Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world. ... his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million."

The dots are all here. It's just a matter of connecting them.

There is serious reason to believe that Trump, if elected, would be seriously compromised by his business and personal ties to Vladimir Putin and Russian financiers.
You don't get it. The Trump crazies WANT to have a cozy relationship with Vladimir Putin the vile Russian thug. He reflects the same sort of values as their hero Donald Trump. They are two peas in a pod. Of course in the end, it will bite them in the ass, but they don't give a crap. This is how populism works, set aside rational thought.
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Old 12-11-2016, 07:30 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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The bill was introduced by A Republican, with no cosponsors. Besides that, it wouldn't wipe out social security. Besides that, it has nothing to do with the unsubstantiated leaks re Russia hacking or Trump.
Unsubstantiated?

CIA thinks otherwise.


https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAlp8XM?m=en-us
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:03 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
FBI investigation underway that the cybercrime against the Democratic Party was done by Russian intelligence. At the same time, Trump's deep connections to Putin and his colleagues are being increasingly exposed:

"The theory that Moscow orchestrated the leaks to help Trump, who has repeatedly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and practically called for the end of NATO, is fast gaining currency within the Obama administration because of the timing of the leaks and Trump’s own connections to the Russian government" (source)

Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, worked as a lobbyist for the Russian-backed former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych for more than a decade.

"The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington."

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008... “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

"Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world. ... his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million."

The dots are all here. It's just a matter of connecting them.

There is serious reason to believe that Trump, if elected, would be seriously compromised by his business and personal ties to Vladimir Putin and Russian financiers.






FBI investigation ?




You mean this FBI?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tX7PuAgmlHQ




The FBI that is part of this justice department?


http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/01/us...cal-furor.html
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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Originally Posted by Elliott_CA View Post
FBI investigation underway that the cybercrime against the Democratic Party was done by Russian intelligence. At the same time, Trump's deep connections to Putin and his colleagues are being increasingly exposed:

"The theory that Moscow orchestrated the leaks to help Trump, who has repeatedly praised Russian President Vladimir Putin and practically called for the end of NATO, is fast gaining currency within the Obama administration because of the timing of the leaks and Trump’s own connections to the Russian government" (source)

Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, worked as a lobbyist for the Russian-backed former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych for more than a decade.

"The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington."

“Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets,” Trump’s son, Donald Jr., told a real estate conference in 2008... “We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”

"Since the 1980s, Trump and his family members have made numerous trips to Moscow in search of business opportunities, and they have relied on Russian investors to buy their properties around the world. ... his debt load has grown dramatically over the last year, from $350 million to $630 million."

The dots are all here. It's just a matter of connecting them.

There is serious reason to believe that Trump, if elected, would be seriously compromised by his business and personal ties to Vladimir Putin and Russian financiers.
The FBI already declared your conspiracy a sham. Hillary really did lose. Next question?
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:22 AM
 
Location: United States
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Look what we have here, evidence that the Washington Post is fake news, and making up stories about Russia interfering with the election.



Washington Post admits notorious article accusing websites of spreading fake Russian news may have been a bit fake



The Washington Post has appended its story accusing 'Russia of spreading fake news', saying it cannot vouch for the research of its independent 'experts.'

The article, - the newspaper's most read story the day it was published - was met with fierce backlash and even threats of legal action from some of the websites that felt they had been unfairly labelled.

It appears to try and distance the newspaper from its source. 'The Post, which did not name any of the sites, does not itself vouch for the validity of PropOrNot's findings regarding any individual media outlet, nor did the article purport to do so,' the note stated.




Washington Post appends story accusing 'Russia of spreading fake news' | Daily Mail Online
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Old 12-11-2016, 08:42 AM
 
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Originally Posted by EvilEyeFleegle View Post
Unsubstantiated?

CIA thinks otherwise.


https://a.msn.com/r/2/AAlp8XM?m=en-us
Another WaPo article validating a prior WaPo article.
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Old 12-11-2016, 09:05 AM
 
Location: Twin Falls Idaho
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Look what we have here, evidence that the Washington Post is fake news, and making up stories about Russia interfering with the election.



Washington Post admits notorious article accusing websites of spreading fake Russian news may have been a bit fake



The Washington Post has appended its story accusing 'Russia of spreading fake news', saying it cannot vouch for the research of its independent 'experts.'

The article, - the newspaper's most read story the day it was published - was met with fierce backlash and even threats of legal action from some of the websites that felt they had been unfairly labelled.

It appears to try and distance the newspaper from its source. 'The Post, which did not name any of the sites, does not itself vouch for the validity of PropOrNot's findings regarding any individual media outlet, nor did the article purport to do so,' the note stated.




Washington Post appends story accusing 'Russia of spreading fake news' | Daily Mail Online
Good grief.

"Cannot vouch for the research" does not equal fake!

It does add a bit of doubt..but the fact the the WP retracted..to some extent..shows their commitment---

as an aside...I'm convinced that there were Russian trolls right here at C-D. Could I prove it, no
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