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Old 07-26-2016, 11:00 PM
 
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I blame Muhammad.
He's the root of all these terrorist attacks.
And these people seem to be following Muhammad's path.

He's a murderer, torturer, rapist and slave owner.
Not to mention a conqueror and warlord. Well I guess you can say he was a great conqueror since he was very good at it.

If you don't believe, I suggest you to read Quran and Hadith.

Now I am glad that people are knowing more and more about how evil and phhucked up Muhammad is though.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:03 PM
 
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Once again you attempt to apply current laws and norms to 1400 years ago when it was common all over the world for fathers to arrange marriages / trade very young daughters, a practice which greatly preceded Mohammed's time. Consummation typically did not occur till puberty.

Fast forward to colonial Delaware that declared the age of consent for a girl to be age 7

Most war lords have similar attributes.
Again you try to blur the lines between Prophets and Non-Prophets from history.

The Quran says that Muhammad is the perfect human being and an example to follow for Muslims for ALL times. Muhammad should not have committed the crimes, since he knew what the Quran said, and should not have been a horrible role model for his followers.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:06 PM
 
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The irony. Saudi has been a long time ally of the Us despite their lack of human / civil rights.

Bush 2 once said something along the lines of how sometimes it's necessary to hold your nose when dealing with some allies.
That's true. I hate the Saudis most of all. As far as I'm concerned, they are the ones who spread this extremism around the world with their Wahabbism. Unfortunately, what would happen in their country if we abandoned their leaders and let them fall to the citizens would be far worse than a group of billionaires who know they need to protect their money and keep business and oil flowing. Losing Saudi Arabia as an ally would be devastating.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:07 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Just provide a list of Muslim-majority countries in which a Muslim can openly say he is no longer a Muslim. How many Muslim countries have an openly Ex-Muslim or Atheist club?

You don't need polls, the evidence is in your face.
Yes, that intransigence - and apostasy laws are central to the problem.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:17 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Once again you attempt to apply current laws and norms to 1400 years ago.. .
But isn't Sharia essentially stuck 1400 years ago?
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I agree, Obama's professorial approach isn't up to the job, BUT he was elected partly on a mandate to wrap up the Iraq adventure - there wasn't much of an analysis on the part of the American people, many were war weary - and just wanted the hell out. I would take it further - US ambitions - under the blundering direction of the neo-cons VASTLY underestimated the task at hand. The schisms, the undecipherable cultural variables and so on. I believe for Iraq to have had a chance to succeed, ALL of America (such was the task) would have had to have pitched in: voluntary or otherwise conscription, Rosie the Riveters, an increased 'patriotic war tax' - in addition to huge investment. As much of a superpower as we are - notwithstanding our domestic problems - we just aren't rich enough, or powerful enough to achieve that end. Instead, we were told to go out and buy large screen TVs.
The Iraq Resolution was sold to Congress and the people as "a 5 day, 5 week, no more than a 5 month initiative". In the end, we spent 6 years and $6 trillion when interest on debt and veteran benefits are factored in. More US people were killed or wounded in Iraq than have been killed/ injured by terrorists on US soil.

It appears zero, zip, nada consideration was given to what happens after we take Saddam out. Instead, the energy was directed towards which US corporations would financially benefit.

The Bush 2 Admin and Iraq agreed to withdrawal of all troops by the end of 2011. Iraq was not open to an extension. Seems many blame Obama for not continuing to occupy Iraq against Iraq's wishes and for honoring the SOFA agreement negotiated by the prior admin.

Just this evening the Fox News Bandwagon at the DNC were clucking how the Dems were avoiding sharing their strategy for ISIS. They were frothing at the mouth to compare and contrast two Hawks, Trump vs Hillary.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:42 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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But isn't Sharia essentially stuck 1400 years ago?
Depends on interpretation and application.

It certainly is in some cultures, in some places. Not so much in others.

Big bad Iran is downright liberal compared to Saudi Arabia.

There are blogs out there written by expat women from Austrailia, Europe and Canada who work ( mostly healthcare) in SA or are married to Saudis and living in SA. They have some interesting perspectives as it relates to say the inability of women to legally drive. The taxi companies and cabs are owned by wealthy people and employ millions of men. They tend to see the ban more related to protecting wealth and creating jobs for men with families, than a religious thing.

Huge differences in culture between urban and rural communities.

Fascinating reading, especially the variety of Bedouin cultures who would not know Sharia from the Declaration of Independence.
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Old 07-26-2016, 11:54 PM
 
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Half the people in the United States aren't tolerant of women, gays, people of other religions and races. They just don't murder people for it (largely).
1/2? Where did you get that data?

(largely)? Why did you add that?
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:00 AM
 
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Because Republicans angry, that why.
Aren't Democrats? If not, why not?

This savage religion is not going to go away.
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Old 07-27-2016, 12:16 AM
 
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Not one word about this appalling act on the Democrat Convention floor tonight. Not one word. What we go instead was a veritable festival of female chest thumping punctuated by Hollywood liberals and singers.

Is this an alternative reality these people live in. It has to be said and even some MSNBC news commentators had to concede , the absence of any reference to the attack today in France will come back to haunt them. Ladies you all should have shown a little respect tonight. There will be some open dumbfounded faces around the Dem party if you continue to bask in self glorification at the expense of much needed compassion and a little respect.
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