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Old 07-27-2016, 04:52 AM
 
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Not one word about this appalling act on the Democrat Convention floor tonight. Not one word. What we go instead was a veritable festival of female chest thumping punctuated by Hollywood liberals and singers.

Is this an alternative reality these people live in. It has to be said and even some MSNBC news commentators had to concede , the absence of any reference to the attack today in France will come back to haunt them. Ladies you all should have shown a little respect tonight. There will be some open dumbfounded faces around the Dem party if you continue to bask in self glorification at the expense of much needed compassion and a little respect.
You're asking an awful lot of them...
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Old 07-27-2016, 07:05 AM
 
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1/2? Where did you get that data?

(largely)? Why did you add that?
Because liberals are all about the straw man arguments. They think conservatives are evil, and no amount of evidence to the contrary will get through. We are the boogeymen that will take women back to the 1950s. It doesn't matter that Trump has many female executives, and he pays them more equally to the male executives than Hillary Clinton does. It would be comical if it wasn't so serious.
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Old 07-27-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Priest, 86, is 'beheaded' by two 'Islamic knifemen' after taking nuns and worshippers hostage at French church before police shoot them both dead and search building for explosives.

France hostage situation in Normandy sees priest, 86, killed by knifeman | Daily Mail Online


Islam has no place in a civilized society.
Another benghazi moment just when the DNC occurs and the SOS says air conditioners are more deadly than terrorists in this world that is more tranquil because of HRC and obama's ME policies.


DNC says, what terrorism? just revenge for the crusades.


Obama still looking for a cause for the last two terror attacks despite the words of the terrorists saying they were committing an act of terror. If all the FBI agents investigating zimmerman ever discovered he ever used a banned word anytime in his past, he would have been charged with a hate crime. Someone has their thumb on the scale of justice!
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:05 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Just where is Nato? The efforts so far have been futile. The coalitions have been futile. Celebrations and congratulations are handed out for the retaking of cities previously taken through the spilled blood of American soldiers. That, BTW is called dying in vain.
I am not sure how NATO can do the job of the French domestic security. We keep calling it a war but we haven't figured out how to fight it. They are inside the forte. The time and place to stop them is not when they are at the Church door. The way to stop them is before they get out of bed in the morning. I don't know how to do it but that is for the law enforcement to figure out.
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Old 07-27-2016, 08:32 AM
 
Location: Suburb of Chicago
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I have a little more faith in the anti-terrorism efforts of the British and Americans. They certainly are better at thwarting terrorism than France. I mean, come on! The kid in France today was arrested for trying to go to Syria. The prosecutors begged for him to get a jail sentence, but the judges decided instead he should live with his parents under semi-monitoring. What's the point of a monitoring bracelet if it's known not to be monitored between certain hours everyday? Why would they do that? Was it so he could work? Couldn't they add the workplace to the monitor? I just don't see the reasoning for that sentence.

Not that I think our country is 100% safe from terrorism, but I at least expect our country to do better than France. Then again, they managed to let Omar Mateen slip through the cracks...and the Boston Bombers...and Nidal Hassan.

On second thought, maybe our government isn't much better than France.
The SB massacre could have been avoided, but the FBI agents were told by Clinton's office to back off because they were profiling Muslims - so it depends on who wins the election. If Clinton gets in, we're no safer than Paris.
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:30 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The SB massacre could have been avoided, but the FBI agents were told by Clinton's office to back off because they were profiling Muslims - so it depends on who wins the election. If Clinton gets in, we're no safer than Paris.
Avoided? How so?

Are you referring to Tashfeen Malik?

Immigration is the responsibility of the Cabinet Department of Homeland Security, not Secretary of State.


Farook and childhood pal Marquez , both born in the US. were planning attacks years before Farook began looking for a bride. Marquez supplied some of the guns used in the massacre because Farook was concerned it would be noticed he was stockpiling. They were both self radicalized by consuming poison on the Internet.

Tashfeen and Farook met online and exchanged private messages. Subsequent, they met in person, a condition for a fiance visa, and did so in Saudi Arabia, 70+ year ally of the US.
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:49 AM
 
Location: New Mexico
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I am not sure how NATO can do the job of the French domestic security. We keep calling it a war but we haven't figured out how to fight it. They are inside the forte. The time and place to stop them is not when they are at the Church door. The way to stop them is before they get out of bed in the morning. I don't know how to do it but that is for the law enforcement to figure out.
France has Islamic problems because of their specific history - in Algeria & other parts of Africa & the Middle East where there are lots of Islamics. Algerians were granted the right to return to France, which included the Islamic component. France in the 1950s thought it would need a lot of labor to keep growing - & they looked to Islamics as a viable labor force option.


That didn't work out - the labor projections turned sour, there wasn't as much need for labor beyond what France itself could supply. France was also active in Lebanon, Syria; with the UK, they connived @ the Sikes-Picot Agreement, which carved up the Ottoman Empire between UK & France. Then the Suez Canal Crisis, & so on.


France has had real difficulties integrating Islamics who are in France for the long term. See:


Reflections on the revolution in Europe : immigration, Islam, and the West /Christopher Caldwell, c2009, Doubleday, 304.8088 Cald.


Subjects

Note
  • Immigration. Rivers of blood ; The immigrant economy ; Who is immigration for? ; Fear masquerading as tolerance -- Islam. Ethic colonies ; An adversary culture ; Europe's crisis of faith ; Rules for sex -- The West. Tolerance and impunity ; Resistance and jihad ; Liberalism and diversity ; Survival and culture.
Summary
  • Europe has undergone a demographic revolution it never expected. A half century of mass immigration has failed to produce anything resembling a melting pot. By overestimating its need for immigrant labor and underestimating the culture-shaping potential of religion, Europe has trapped itself in a problem to which it has no obvious solution. Journalist Christopher Caldwell reveals a paradox: since World War II, mass immigration has been made possible by Europe's enforcement of secularism, tolerance, and equality. But when immigrants arrive, they are not required to adopt those values--and they are disinclined to. Muslims dominate or nearly dominate important European cities. As increasingly assertive immigrant populations shape the continent, Caldwell writes, the foundations of European culture and civilization are being challenged--and replaced.--From publisher description.
Length 422 pages ; index, chapter notes, bibliography
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Old 07-27-2016, 09:54 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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The international news outlets refer to the priest's throat being slit, including the link provided by the OP.

Yet the title of this thread refers to a beheading. Websites like Alex Jones also use sensationalized headlines that are not supported by the content of the articles.

Slitting a throat is a swift method of murder. Decapitation with a knife would be quite challenging and require considerable focus and effort.

One of the two whack jobs responsible for the attack has been identified as 17-18-19 year old by various media. His professional family reportedly contacted LE about the online radicalization of their son when he twice attempted to use his brother's passport to go to Syria to fight; once in Turkey and once in Germany.

Not disclosed where the kid got the money for his international travel.

Despite being under house arrest, this kid was free to turn off the tracking device for several hours a day and leave his family's home. He was also free to use the Internet while at home.

It's beyond time to reconsider the consequences for intentions to join ISIS. Putting them into the general prison population is probably not a good choice.
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Old 07-27-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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I think the USA figured out the solution to this problem well over 200 years ago...it is called the 2nd Amendment.
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Old 07-27-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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Avoided? How so?

Are you referring to Tashfeen Malik?

Immigration is the responsibility of the Cabinet Department of Homeland Security, not Secretary of State.


Farook and childhood pal Marquez , both born in the US. were planning attacks years before Farook began looking for a bride. Marquez supplied some of the guns used in the massacre because Farook was concerned it would be noticed he was stockpiling. They were both self radicalized by consuming poison on the Internet.

Tashfeen and Farook met online and exchanged private messages. Subsequent, they met in person, a condition for a fiance visa, and did so in Saudi Arabia, 70+ year ally of the US.

you mean this:

The Noble Quran -


Find me a random page that does not in some context justify slaughtering infidels.
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