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Old 07-31-2016, 06:18 PM
 
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First, I word-searched "Normandy" for last seven days and did not come up with an "earlier thread." Second, what do you call this kind of garbage,Palestinian siblings killed in Israeli strikes on Gaza - AJE News?
Here you go.

A link to an article from Al Jazeera doesn't really disprove my point which was that we, in America, aren't really talking about what Israel does, nor have we for a little while. Issues come and go all the time. Not too long ago, people thought that Israel's willingness to kill civilians was wrong, while the other side argued that they had no choice; it was necessary as part of their defenses. Regardless, there hasn't been a campus outrage about Israel for months, maybe even more than a year, nor one about ISIS. The comparison doesn't make any sense for that reason.
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Old 07-31-2016, 06:30 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Thanks . Moderators, please merge the threads.

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A link to an article from Al Jazeera doesn't really disprove my point which was that we, in America, aren't really talking about what Israel does, nor have we for a little while. Issues come and go all the time. Not too long ago, people thought that Israel's willingness to kill civilians was wrong, while the other side argued that they had no choice; it was necessary as part of their defenses. Regardless, there hasn't been a campus outrage about Israel for months, maybe even more than a year, nor one about ISIS. The comparison doesn't make any sense for that reason.
Here you go:
  1. Link #1, relating to NYU
  2. Columbia Students for Justice in Palestine
  3. Students for Justice in Palestine at UCLA
Need more examples? Also remember it's summer. Universities are notoriously underpopulated during the summer.
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Old 07-31-2016, 06:34 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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I just asked the moderators to merge a new thread I started, Father Jacques Hamel, Normandy Priest, Executed by ISIS Militants, into this thread. What I said was:

ISIS knifemen film themselves murdering French priest in Normandy

A gentle 84 year old priest was executed by known terror threat Adel Kermiche in Normandy, France last week. He was under 24 hour ankle bracelet monitoring for twice trying to leave France for Syria to fight for ISIS. He was able to mount the attack because he was at liberty from 8:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.

Typically, there has been little outcry about this attack, while Israel faces regular and systematic condemnation for defending itself. Where are the campus movements against the ISIS murderers? Where's the outrage?
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Old 07-31-2016, 06:37 PM
 
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I just asked the moderators to merge a new thread I started, Father Jacques Hamel, Normandy Priest, Executed by ISIS Militants, into this thread. What I said was:

ISIS knifemen film themselves murdering French priest in Normandy

A gentle 84 year old priest was executed by known terror threat Adel Kermiche in Normandy, France last week. He was under 24 hour ankle bracelet monitoring for twice trying to leave France for Syria to fight for ISIS. He was able to mount the attack because he was at liberty from 8:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m.

Typically, there has been little outcry about this attack, while Israel faces regular and systematic condemnation for defending itself. Where are the campus movements against the ISIS murderers? Where's the outrage?

People just look away and ignore it. They're afraid to be called racist. Because, you know, feeling outraged by a priest getting his throat slashed is racist.
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Old 07-31-2016, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Default Muslims Attend Catholic Mass Across France In Powerful Show Of Unity

This was a positive step


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Muslims and Catholics joined in Friday prayers at the mosque in the Normandy town where an elderly priest was slain this week, with one imam chastising the extremists as non-Muslims who are "not part of civilization."


But one imam made a rare direct strike at the killers who claimed to act in the name of Allah.
"You have the wrong civilization, because you are not a part of civilization. You have the wrong humanity, because you are not a part of humanity," said Abdelatif Hmitou. "You have the wrong idea about us (Muslims), and we won't forgive you for this."
Muslim Blasts Extremists at Friday Prayer With Christians - ABC News
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Old 07-31-2016, 06:54 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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People just look away and ignore it. They're afraid to be called racist. Because, you know, feeling outraged by a priest getting his throat slashed is racist.
Perfect. I'm going to rep the post.

This campaign against "racism" has cost us our will or stomach to defend ourselves. We are faced with a people whose sole goal is to kill people; almost a sexual pleasure. We are too willing to attribute benign motives to pure evil.
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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thumbs up! bet some greeting their teeth -- and having a total melt down
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:09 PM
 
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There are millions of Muslims living in France and a few dozen show up. No one is fooled.
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:10 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Perfect. I'm going to rep the post.

This campaign against "racism" has cost us our will or stomach to defend ourselves. We are faced with a people whose sole goal is to kill people; almost a sexual pleasure. We are too willing to attribute benign motives to pure evil.
No, I don't have a problem with screening out of the US (as immigrants, as refugees) Islamic radicals. That is self-defense, & I don't recall @ any point the US waiving its right to defend itself. Nor is racism in itself an issue - people from Asia & Africa & the Middle East have immigrated to the US & become US citizens.


@ the same time, I don't think all Islamics are out to kill all non-Islamic believers, or even agnostics or atheists or what-have-you. Are Islamics pure evil? An interesting question, but for now, I'm much more interested in protecting our people & interests here in the US & abroad, out in the World. The theological status of Islam vs. Christianity or even radical Islam & so on - is a worthy debate, I'm sure.


But while we're hip-deep in alligators is not the time to discuss draining the swamp. It's time to figure out how to deal with the alligators. I'm sure there are historians & theologians & experts on Islam debating the various issues - I can wait for them to get back to us. I don't consider Islam as it stands to be an existential threat to the US, although they certainly pose a challenge to the countries of the West, especially in Europe. We'll have to keep watch on how Europe copes with their Islamic problem, & learn what works for them & what doesn't.
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Old 07-31-2016, 07:12 PM
 
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They don't need to show up at mass, they need to police their own.
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