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Old 07-26-2016, 01:08 PM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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You didn't comprehend what my concerns were. Let me refresh your memory:

Are any of you bothered at all by the fact that this is even possible? I'm not saying that the DNC emails are somehow excused, but aren't we ignoring the real "Elephant in the room" here in ignoring the implications of a foreign government, a HOSTILE foreign government could be meddling in our elections?
I comprehended what you said perfectly, maybe you didn't understand what I said.

People like you didn't give a damn about Hillary's private, unsecured email server and you're willing to look past all of that while still supporting her. Now all of a sudden the DNC gets caught with emails that are bland, tame and otherwise harmless compared to what Hillary had on her server and you guys care. You only care because it's affecting your side's campaign and lowering support for your candidate, the same candidate that put our national security at risk for years with her email system.

Pardon me if I have a hard time feeling sorry for you guys, this is a perfect example of why Hillary AND the DNC aren't fit to run this country at this time. If this email hack hurts the DNC, maybe it'll force them to act like adults and be honest.
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:09 PM
 
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By that token do we know if the emails are legit? Do we know if some staffers were targeting Clinton but those ones did not get released?
The DNC has apologized and their chair has resigned. The emails are legit. They haven't disputed them.
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:10 PM
 
Location: North America
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Another issue at play here is how this could very well be 100% true, but like the boy who cried wolf, now no one really is going to give much credence to the same bunch who have been in cahoots.

They have shown time and time again they will say whatever and run with whatever narrative they think are in their own best interest with very little regard to the actual truth.
The FBI is investigating the hack.
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:13 PM
 
Location: North America
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I comprehended what you said perfectly, maybe you didn't understand what I said.

People like you didn't give a damn about Hillary's private, unsecured email server and you're willing to look past all of that while still supporting her. Now all of a sudden the DNC gets caught with emails that are bland, tame and otherwise harmless compared to what Hillary had on her server and you guys care. You only care because it's affecting your side's campaign and lowering support for your candidate, the same candidate that put our national security at risk for years with her email system.

Pardon me if I have a hard time feeling sorry for you guys, this is a perfect example of why Hillary AND the DNC aren't fit to run this country at this time. If this email hack hurts the DNC, maybe it'll force them to act like adults and be honest.
Putting words in my mouth? I never said or implied that I didn't care about Hillary's private email server being used for State Department business, some of it classified.

What I'd like to know, is beyond the Hillary bashing, aren't any of you the least bit concerned that Russia may be trying to manipulate an election? They've done it before.

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Old 07-26-2016, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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yes, it does bother me, but I don't believe it's true.....honestly, I don't. I'm not being sarcastic.
It's very hard to believe that the email dump, coming one day before the Democratic convention was to begin, was coincidental. Wiki Leaks hasn't done such specific timing before; in fact, the randomness of it's leaks has made them get more attention when a dump happens.

Putin definitely despises Clinton, and he has already tinkered with elections all over Europe in similar fashion. Similar election disruption has occurred in Germany, France, Italy, and others.

Cyber warfare is very useful to the Russians. Hacking can disrupt national currencies, international negotiations, military operations, and lots of other stuff to hamper the west to their favor. Chaos has always been a very useful tool, and Putin completely understands it's many values.

The Russians have some darned good hackers, too. Many are criminals who hit Russia first, and instead of going to prison, where integrated into Putin's group of hackers, where their expertise could be really put to use.

Putin's Little Hackers
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:20 PM
 
Location: North America
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It's very hard to believe that the email dump, coming one day before the Democratic convention was to begin, was coincidental. Wiki Leaks hasn't done such specific timing before; in fact, the randomness of it's leaks has made them get more attention when a dump happens.

Putin definitely despises Clinton, and he has already tinkered with elections all over Europe in similar fashion. Similar election disruption has occurred in Germany, France, Italy, and others.

Cyber warfare is very useful to the Russians. Hacking can disrupt national currencies, international negotiations, military operations, and lots of other stuff to hamper the west to their favor. Chaos has always been a very useful tool, and Putin completely understands it's many values.

The Russians have some darned good hackers, too. Many are criminals who hit Russia first, and instead of going to prison, where integrated into Putin's group of hackers, where their expertise could be really put to use.

Putin's Little Hackers
And, again, it begs the question: Who would profit the most?
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:24 PM
 
Location: SGV
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I'm more worried that you people think all this is reality.
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:27 PM
 
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And, again, it begs the question: Who would profit the most?
We would profit the most.

The citizens of the USA.
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:31 PM
 
Location: North America
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I'm more worried that you people think all this is reality.
google speculation.
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Old 07-26-2016, 01:34 PM
 
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The FBI is investigating the hack.
Lol like they did with hillharries e-mails
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